About a Japanese Promo card VJMP-JP019 Darkred Enchanter

I wasn't sure if this belongs in Card Review, Collectors section, or whatnot. Mods please move this to another board if you don't think it belongs here.

Anyway, I read this from

DMCOMET. Yes, I'm saying I got this info from DMCOMET!

http://www.dmcomet.net/news/89.htm

And this is the monster.

VJMP-JP019
Darkred Enchanter
Dark/Spellcaster/6/1700/2200
When this card is successfully Summoned put 2 Magic Counters onto this card. When you or opponent activates a Magic card, put a Magic counter onto this card. Increase this card's attack strength by 300 for each Magic Counter on this card. Also, you can remove 2 Magic Counters on this card, and randomly discard a card from opponent's hand. This effect can only be use once per turn.

Now, I'm assuming that "summoned" is Normal Summon and Special summon. This card looks like Magical Marionette the pumped up version. I mean, people all say that Magical Marionette is one of the best tribute spellcast monster (Other then the almighty Dark Magician of Chaos) and the best pull for Magician's Circle. But this card, when summoned, get two counters that'll be bumped to 2300ATK immediately. (Not to mention it's stat is 1700 so it can be searched with Circle) And then from there, you can remove 2 counters to discard 1 card from the foe's hand. The "prob" with Marionette is that there have to be 2 spells activated to get the counters needed for that monster destruction. But for this, you automatically get 2 for at least activate the effect immediately if you want. (Although probably you can't call priority, like Breaker can't call priority) And while Marionette gets 200xATK boost, this gets 300xATK boost. (Although the stats start weaker)

If this is released, I can seriously see this card working well with a Spellcaster themed deck with Magician's Circle and Magical Dimension.
 
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It definately has some promise, especially if run in a deck-type similar to the Structure deck. Lots of Spells and Spell-Counter Strategy.(As you stated ;) ) I have always liked Marionette and this guy is a single trib also.
 
This card really caught my eye, too. Essentially if you can keep activating Spells, this guy can get really big, or your opponent's hand can get really small. Or both. This could be a late game bomb with the discard ability and your opponent is topdecking.

And have you seen the art? Very, very nice.
 
drzero7 said:
I wasn't sure if this belongs in Card Review, Collectors section, or whatnot. Mods please move this to another board if you don't think it belongs here.
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A long time ago we used to keep these in the Card Reviews section. But we haven't had any Japanese reviews in a while. Barring any other objections, I moving it there.
 
It looks really promising as far as a boost to spellcasters go, and being able to search it with circle essentially makes it even better.
 
Thanks for moving it to a proper forum.

BTW, are the toekns gainable when "special summoned" Cause if it is, it'll totally pimp out the Circle and Dimension. But if it can only gain those 2 tokens when normal summoned (Like Breaker) then it's a bit weaker then I hoped. I mean, how awesome would it be to gain 2 tokens with Circle, and then immediately discard a card from the foe's hand during your main phase 2 huh? I mean, that one wording difference can make a whole difference of the power of this card.
 
I sure hope it's only Normal Summon. To a creative thinker, it could mean the difference betweeen a very powerful card and a blatantly and utterly broken one. It is as powerful as the Monarchs just with Normal Summon-only tokens. Give it Special Summon tokens and it will need to be Limited.

Three Toon Table of Contents cards, use the last one to pull a Toon Gemini Elf. White Magical Hat. Spellcaster-advantage decks could become tier 1.
 
Hmm, so in the end, it's the "weaker" version of Thestalos. I mean, after you activate it's effect, it's attack drops to 1700. Not to mention, probably like Breaker, you can't call priority, while Thestalos effect goes off no matter what except for "negate the summon" counter-trap effects. I guess you CAN search it with Circle, and then play 3x Toon Tables.
 
drzero7 said:
Hmm, so in the end, it's the "weaker" version of Thestalos. I mean, after you activate it's effect, it's attack drops to 1700. Not to mention, probably like Breaker, you can't call priority, while Thestalos effect goes off no matter what except for "negate the summon" counter-trap effects. I guess you CAN search it with Circle, and then play 3x Toon Tables.
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Might keep your opponent from activating any Quick-Plays in chain or response to his summon. And you can still chain your own Quick-Play Spells to his effect. Other then that, you never "call" priority. You always have it as the Turn Player. Breaker's summoning effect is trigger, and your priority is essentially used by that effect.
 
Might keep your opponent from activating any Quick-Plays in chain or response to his summon. And you can still chain your own Quick-Play Spells to his effect. Other then that, you never "call" priority. You always have it as the Turn Player. Breaker's summoning effect is trigger, and your priority is essentially used by that effect.
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Still, cards like BTH or Ring can stop Breaker from activating it's effect.

Yeah, they'll reconsider quick-plays with the exception of Book of Moon. Cause that'll get rid of all the tokens since it'll be flipped face-down.
 
On a side note, I am assuming Magic Tokens are the same as Spell Tokens in the US, correct? If so, Pitch-Black Power Stone could offer a little help. I had fun using it in a 'Spell Counter Themed' deck.
 
MightyDingo said:
On a side note, I am assuming Magic Tokens are the same as Spell Tokens in the US, correct? If so, Pitch-Black Power Stone could offer a little help. I had fun using it in a 'Spell Counter Themed' deck.
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I would assume your assumption is correct. Lesser version of Thestalos? I think not. Thestalos is a "one time" deal, while this guy can do it as long as you can keep generating counters for him. The drawback is he loses ATK power, but I don't see that as much of a problem if you can take away even just a few of your opponent's options.
 
I just keep imagining him in an Equip Deck. Spellcasters often jibe with Warriors real well, so I see people having a lot of fun with his potential.
 
He is considerably stronger than Thestalos. He just requires a little more work.

The thing they're trying to counter in this game is the generally reckless attitude that decks tend to have. You summon your breaker; he smashes a spell or trap; you may get one attack in, and then if you don't tribute him soon, he's gone. You summon your Thestalos and get his effect, then you attack with him until your opponent Rings him.

Now they're trying to give more power to the kinds of decks that like to keep monsters around. More and more I see cards that need to be on the field and "build" in some way - adding spell counters, letting turns go by, having some other monster on the field at the time, etc. Darkred Enchanter would be, in my opinion, the most prominent example of this.

He's much stronger than any other single-tribute normal summon monster we've ever had before. Stronger than Jinzo and Mobius, etc. You just have to keep him there and build him up a little. Magic Drain and other counter traps will be needed to protect him.
 
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