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.. how long aproximately it takes to get an answer to a question posted to the "Judges List" over on the UDE site? Im sure they get swamped and it takes some time, just wondering if anyone had an estimate? thanks.

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Depending on the question, it could be a few days to a few weeks to not at all. It just depends. There are some questions that UDE will ignore until certain ruling situations are worked out. But the generally simple ones will be answered withing a few days.
 
Even then they may not give you an answer that will satisfy you. I once sent them an email asking why Gren Maju Da Eiza is targeted by Deck Devastation Virus but couldn't be searched for by Sangan. If an unidentified attack/def point monster doesn't count as 0 in the deck then why should it count as 0 when you draw it or its sitting in your hand? I waited alittle over a week and sent them two emails regarding this question, and the only answer I got back was "Because that was the ruling that Konami set before us." WTF kind of answer is that?
 
Because UDE seems to have this policy where if they do answer a question, it will be the barest minimum amount of information they can possible give you. I think it stems from the idea that a lot of players also seem to have (at least with regard to forums), or it may be that UDE's tendency to be so spare in their answers has engendered this idea with players, in that most seem to think rulings should never be discussed beyond the initial answer to the initial question; the excuse being given that additional discussion will only lead to confusion.

You'll notice, that most YGO Rules forums are nothing but an endless archive of locked threads, with a question, an answer, and anything beyond that very rare, and frequently chastised by other members. In contrast, you may also notice that's not the case here, with some of our rules threads spanning the decade. I figure, and my predecessors figured, that if your going to tell people to use the search feature, that your archived information should at least be up to date. But, alas, I'm ranting. I do feel, however, that UDE has had a very influential role in engendering that attitude, particularly by the way they deal with rulings questions, whether by choice, or by direct instruction from Konami.
 
Even then they may not give you an answer that will satisfy you. I once sent them an email asking why Gren Maju Da Eiza is targeted by Deck Devastation Virus but couldn't be searched for by Sangan. If an unidentified attack/def point monster doesn't count as 0 in the deck then why should it count as 0 when you draw it or its sitting in your hand? I waited alittle over a week and sent them two emails regarding this question, and the only answer I got back was "Because that was the ruling that Konami set before us." WTF kind of answer is that?
Really? In the OCG, "Deck Devastation Virus" doesn't destroy "Gren Maju Da Eiza" while he's in the hand, since he has ? attack.
 
Really? In the OCG, "Deck Devastation Virus" doesn't destroy "Gren Maju Da Eiza" while he's in the hand, since he has ? attack.


DECK DEVASTATION VIRUS
If "Night Assailant" in your hand is destroyed by the effect of "Deck Devastation Virus", its effect will activate.

Monsters with "?" for ATK are treated as having an ATK of zero for this effect, while they are in the hand or face-down.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure. This ruling pisses me off more then you can know. Its BS that its ATK of ? can be counted as 0 for DDV but not for Sangan or UFO Turtle. One of the single dumbest rulings I have ever read.
 
Well, How bout I pose the same question to you guys, cuz I have been searching and searching for an answer. If any of the mods feels this should be moved to a different section plz let me know. the question is this:

1st, lets set the field: Player A has a face up attack position Blue-eyes White Dragon on the field equiped with both United We Stand and Mage Power putting him at 4800 ATK. Player B has nothing on the field at the begining of his turn. Player B payes 800 life points to activate Brain Control, and takes control of BEWD and enters his battle phase. What is the ATK of BEWD when he attacks?

Sounds simple enough, but heres what happened at a recent tourny and afterward...

The way I allways played it, BEWD would be at 4000 ATK. But when this occoured to me at a tournament ALL the Judges said BEWD would still get +800 for the United We Stand because the text reads "For every face-up monster [yh]you control[/yh], increase the ATK and DEF of the equipped monster by 800 points." They insisted that whom ever controls the monster is "you". They went on to say that since Mage Power says "Increase the ATK and DEF of the equipped monster by 500 points for [yh]each Spell and Trap Card on your side of the field[/yh]." that it would get the additional 1000 points (500 for each spell on my side of the field)! But never the less I am a gracious player and accepted the Judges rullings after confirming with both head Judges.

Once I got home I quickly began to look into the rulings and then came across Mage Power with now seemingly new text :
Card #CP06-EN011
TextThe equipped monster gains 500 ATK and DEF for [yh]each Spell and Trap Card you control[/yh].

Now either way, I stand by both cards effects looking to the side of the field they are on not the side of the field the monster is on. am I wrong? Can anyone point out anything offical either way?
 
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Interesting.

I'd go for the explanation that Player A (the one with the Equip Cards) is the "you" they refer to, since Player A is the controller of those cards. Player A controls 0 monsters, so no ATK bonus from United We Stand, and Player A controls 2 Spell/Trap Cards, to +1000 ATK bonus for Mage Power. In the end, Blue-Eyes White Dragon has 4000 ATK.

The principle is the same as with Megamorph being equipped to an opponent's monster. The Life Points being referenced are the person's who controls Megamorph.

Equip Cards don't give a power to the monster they are equipped to. They have their own effects, which simply affect the equipped monster in some way (ATK/DEF boost/drain, "destroy me, destroy you" effects, "no Tributing", etc. etc.). So when determining what an Equip Card does, if it refers to "you", it means the player controlling the Equip Card, NOT the player controlling the monster it's attached to. It's the Equip Card's effect, so it should mean the Equip Card's controller. When calculating what the Equip Card does, the matter of who controls the monster it's attached to doesn't matter.
 
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