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Alex (1981 - 2008)<br />Slithery When Wet
Now recent news have said that one of the main reasons tha PS3 is going to be delayed is the Blue-Ray Disc for PS3, conflicts between companies brought up this delay, making a drawback fpr PS3 potential power in game graphics (ie. Kill Zone)...

Another drawback was said to be the prices... only having the Blue-Ray Disc installed would cost the player who bought PS3 consoles about $400-500, just for the disc, added to the console it would have turned out to be about $1000 +, for a PS3.
 
It has nothing to do with graphical power and more with the fact that Blu-Ray is ready to go way before the other new format is coming out. If the two had stopped being babies we have one unified format. Now we are going to have another format war, like Beta Vs. VHS. PS3 is not going to cost $1000 or anywhere near it. It will cost around $400-$600 range and that is pretty cheap considering we are getting a functioning Blu-Ray drive that can play DVDs as well and probably double the speed of a regular Blu-Ray player to begin with. 360 cannot even begin to compete with that when they are stuck using DVDs.
 
yes but currently nobody is using Blu-Ray, my friend when he used to work for Activision he said Blu-Ray was a joke. basically they wanted the developers to work with these insane size dvd's which was kool becuase they had space but what did that mean? if they went Blu-Ray all they would produce is PS3 software becuase it would be too much for the other consoles and Develepors didnt like this.

the console alone will not cost under $600 dollars. just becuase of Blu-Ray. Anybody that buys it and says its the best thing out there is lying. All the PS3 is, is the future of DVD's nothing more, and the current moment nobody out there needs a big enough DVD that will require Blu-Ray.
 
What are you talking about? There is a great deal of companies already with Blu-Ray. You do realize Sony has one of the biggest movie collection right? You have obviously missed the entire point of what I said when it came to Blu-Ray. What do you think HD-DVD is going to cost when it comes out? Blu-Ray is the next evolution in media format, not HD-DVD. Do you even know which one holds more data? Blu-Ray. That means more room for game data, equal more stuff that can be displayed, each more things on screen. With PS3 already a monster of a machine 360 has no chance. But this is not a PS3 vs 360 thread. Blu-Ray is the next step in evolution, HD-DVD is just this lazy step that only really offers like 15-20 GB on a disc when Blu-Ray is like 35-50 GB. I forget the number. And the fact no one is using them, WRONG. Go do some research on them. They have not even come out. How can you not use what is not out? We are about to go through the age of another media format war and I rather go with Sony this time around. Beta was superior to VHS, but because of cheap producing and the porn industry single handidly won that war.
 
put it this way Blu-Ray isnt cost effective. its good 24gb of space on a DVD is good but think about the cost. its too much. DVD's are cheap and do the job.

its not like you can have a the MPEG fils used on the DVD become MP4 you do know that right?

basically, all Blu-ray is is just a big dvd disk, that is all a big non cost effective disk reader with disks.

VHS over DVD's why? becuase DVD are cost effective. and with knowledge we come to understand that Electromanetic Tape does deteriorate its Data over time, so... what does DVD do? it says it will never deteriorate and that is the truth, that is why DVD beat VHS, beta had nothing on VHS becuase at the time VHS was cost effective, If its cheap to produce its cheap to sell. If it costs alot to produce oviously itll be alot.

basically the chance sony is taking is that Blu-Ray will become the next Mini Disk.

do you remember thouse? yea thats right they were better than Tapes but not better than CD's and hence forth eventually Disappeared from the market.

basically Mini disk is like the Blu-ray at this point.

and come on guy, i told you half that stuff was told to me by a friend of mine that used to work at activision as a game tester, he was at E3. So im preaty positive he gave me good info on it.
 
Completely way off base on those accounts to even begin with. Blu-Ray is not even a meager 24 GB no anywhere near that. Beta vs VHS was as I described. Cheap and because of the porn industry. The reason mini-disk did not take off is because Sony stupidity in forcing us to abide by their format standard, ATRAC or whatever it is called. That is still their problem with PSP, which only recently changed to allow all kinds of formats to be played on it, like WMA. Not to mention cost effective? The format is just coming out. How long did it take for DVDs to get to where they are now? VHS were friggin expensive when they first came out. You have to do some research instead of just assuming you know about things like this. Just like HD TV, those used to cost a arm, leg, and your soul just to own. Now they are so cheap there is almost no reason for you not to own one. That is what will happen with Blu-Ray, HD-DVD, whichever one is the winner of this format war coming in the next year. Then DVDs will be phased out just like VHS is being.
 
actually it hits in formats, im over at www.blu-ray.com and it bases from 25, 50 and 100gb.

you call 24gb on a disk meager, i feel sorry for you.

there is absolutly no need for a disk that big, no matter how big the file is itll just get converted over to a MPEG2 file.

Hi-Def tv isnt really anything big, do i have one, nope, do i care to buy one heck no either. I dont need it, its not a necessity.
 
Spoken like a person who has no idea what they are talking about. You have no need for HD TV? Ok so I suppose you have no need for high speed internet? When was it needed for people to get rid of dial-up and jump onboard for high-speed? Some years ago? I feel sorry that you actually think you do not need an HD TV. Good luck with that 3-5 years from now. No really seriously. More space on disk equal more that can be stored and displayed. That is the entire point of more. In this case bigger is better. You wonder why a lot of DVDs could not put in certain features like all this techno stuff dealing with picture, audio, and special features on one disc without compromising the picture quality? There is your answer, not enough space to hold all that data. How many DVDs do you own that could have benefited from such a thing? I never said 24 GB was meager, I said you were off base on what exactly can Blu-Ray hold compared to what HD-DVD is going to hold.

Seriously, do me a favor. Go out, Best Buy, and actually take a gander at the picture quality of a HD Plasma TV. There is no denying that you need it in the near future, if not even now. There is a difference, not some minor difference, a BIG difference. With that said, it is a shame that we, the consumers have to get the short end of the stick in all of this. We easily could have had this merger to form the unified format, but none of them want it their way. Now we as consumers have to suffer through which format is going to make it, HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. Hollywood is already pissed at this to begin with and with good reason. Sony does not have a good track record with introducing their own formats. UMD could be big if they marketed better. Mini-Disc was great, but too bad they forced us to use ATRAC, even on PSP they tried to do that to us. If they had just jumped onboard with MP3 like they should have the Walkman would be the iPod of our generation. The only good news so far I have heard about Blu-Ray and HD-DVD is that LG somehow fandango through legal ramifications to make some hybrid player that can play both new formats.
 
DJ cant hide nothing from me. lol

but that gives me the message to not respond to what you stated.

but i will say this, you think too much of HDTV its not a necessety dude. really, I dont even watch television. heck the last time i played with my xbox was like about 2 to 3 months ago tops.

and not to mention come the Nintendo revolution why would i need a HD tv since its not even HD compatible?

hence forth i dont need something like that, you may and you have free agency to do so, but over all i dont need it and when i stated developers i stated GAME developers not movie folk, cuase i read up on it and its basically alot of the hollywood studios that want blu-ray. Thats preaty much it but in a game industry point of view, at the moment blu-ray is experimental too experimental and may or may not work.

just look at the quality mapping that you get off a regular dvd, its fine dude. really just take a look at the video games on your PC, if you strongly belive that a little console will beat a pc then so be it its your thoughts and opinions on the matters. I dont chose what you like and dont like, but to me Blu-ray is just a bigger chunk of DVD wich requires blue lasers instead of the red laser we use right now. :)

put it this way, currently DVD has problems reading regions you think it wont happen with blu-ray?

now if you look at the layer thickness for it and the buffering supposedly the disks are suppose to be less scratch proof and finger print proof, but if you notice since it writes compressed that means one scratch and most of your data will go to shreads.

ever listen to a scratched disk you know how it skips? well imagin blu-ray going 4 times that crazy becuase its more fragile.

get the specs over at www.blu-ray.com dude i read up on all that, the features it has are good but it means having a more fragile disk.
 
As time goes by video game consoles come out more delicate time and time again, that is unevitable... graphic wise a Blue-Ray disc is a definately a huge plus, even more if they manage to pull off the double-layer blue-disc, this for programming and security purposes at most.
 
Did anyone hear about PS3 being pushed back top as late as next Christmas because of the Blu-Rey technology? Seems like a poor move on Sony's part in my eyes. Puting out a system a year after their two biggest competetors. This will basically allow for Microsoft and Nintendo to always be ahead of Sony, especially if the whole Blu-Rey flops. If the world isn't ready for the technology then I feel Sony shouldn't push it. All be it I am a Microsoft kind of guy I feel the PS3 will fall short to 360 on the grounds the system it's self will run 900+ as well as the games running what? 60 a pop plus?

I mean understood that the U.S Government is pusing HD-TV's in all homes accross the country, which is why the price drops almost every month. Just the other day I saw a add for a 19 inch flat screen HD-TV for 229 dollars after a $75 mail in rebate. I purchased my 23 inch plain old television for that much a few years ago. I mean of course technology grows as the years go by but not everything works, I mean like Krazy pointed out those little Zip drive mini diskplayers made by Sony were the biggest flop ever. I mean why buy little disks that can hold 1-2 CD's when you could purchase a Ipod for almost the same value and not have to worry about the disks themselves. I mean hell I've had a CD player up until last year when I finally decided to splurge on an Ipod. I mean not everyone needs to have the flashiest technology when the tech before it is just as good. I mean we will honestly have to see if this ends up being a good move by Sony or not. Blu-Rey could possibly be the new standard in a few years, but pushing it now could be this systems downfall.
 
According to the BDA [Blu-Ray Disk Association] they actually want CD's and DVD to be with BD. like they dont want it to be pushed out they want it to be there as a third standard format becuase if we remember correctly though not many people use CD players now, CD's still form a use, why store a 12mb file on a BD when you can easily store it on a CD, waste of space is what a 12mb file does when the disk is overextensively large.

see thats what im refering to with the whole develeperse arnt using it at the moment.

Has anybody on here used 3dsmax, I know some people have, any 3d program use knows that when you make a model and put on a mappin on it on the program it looks just like when you made it, hence forth you would need a stronger computer to make the mesh/ model look a bit more realistic, but all this is processecing power not cd/dvd power.

of course, what happend when DVD got out for consoles was that now we no longer have the 4 disk games. but now we have a simple 1 disk game which in all is preaty good considering we squished 4 disks into 1 becuase of all the data that could fit, but at this point in time game developers are like, okay we can fit as much as we can on a dvd we are working under a really nice console system [X360 graphic card is no joke] so why the need for a higher dvd when you can pull just as much with a graphic card?, see the thing PS3 needs to have is 1. the Graphic card and Processing power and 2. blu-ray, currently all it has is just blu-ray but that means nothing if the consoles graphics are the same or similar to that of a regular Xbox.

see when we want to talk about the goods of a console lets talk specs.

cause we can go all year talking about just 1 aspect of it which may or may not function for it. not in general but for it. We all know and understand that alot of the motion picture companies want to move up to BD because oviously it means better quality Audio and Video and really if you think about it all you need for that is the BD reader.

Its good but its not that good right now.

In the Game industry you have to consider it experimental.
In the Movie industry it will probably be the new format.
 
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