Call Of The Mummy / Solemn Judgement

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John Danker

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For some reason my mind is leaving room for doubt on this one...

Player A has a Call Of The Mummy resolved to the field and activates it's effect. Upon resolution (of the EFFECT of Call of the Mummy's) player A selects Despair From The Dark and special summons it.

Player B attempts to use Solemn Judgement.

I ruled that Solemn Judgement was illegally activated. Solemn Judgement could have negated the activation of Call Of The Mummy but not the special summon of the monster by effect of Call Of The Mummy.

I don't like the way that the rulings for Royal Oppression "group" Royal Oppression, Solemn Judgement, and Horn Of Heaven together. When you look at the rulings for Royal Oppression it could have been used in this scenario when the EFFECT of Call Of The Mummy was activated to destroy Call Of The Mummy (note that the monster is selected at resolution with Call Of The Mummy) Solemn Judgement on the other hand (according to it's text) must negate the activation of a spell / trap card, it says nothing about negating and destroying the effect of a card that has already resolved to the field.

Is there something I'm not understanding here or am I on target?
 
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UDE FAQ said:
When "Jam Breeding Machine" activates its effect to Special Summon a "Slime Token" in the Standby Phase, and the effect of "Royal Oppression" can be activated at that time to negate the Special Summon and destroy "Jam Breeding Machine".
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That would agree with your assessment of "Royal Oppression".

I'd say you are right on target.
 
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Im sure it doesnt come up often enough at the larger level tourney's because of all the Netdecking and cookie cutters, but any monster that is summoned by the effect of Call of the Mummy should be treated as a monster summoned by Call of the Haunted, Monster Reborn, or Premature Burial as far as Solemn Judgment is concerned, because it is a external card effect that is summoning the monster, and not just a ordinary Summon.

As has been stated, Royal Oppression is the perfect fit here.
 
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The grouping (even though i can see where the confusion comes from) seems fine, because they are specifically refering to HoH and SJ negating Special Summons (from Hand). In that regard they operate in exactly the same fashion, which is why they are grouped.

The fact that SJ can negate a Spell/Trap Card activation has nothing specifically to do with negating Special Summons, it negates the activation of the card, whether it Special Summons or not, and it has to be done when the card is first played onto the field.

Royal Oppression is definately the right effect to use here.
 
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masterwoo0 said:
Im sure it doesnt come up often enough at the larger level tourney's because of all the Netdecking and cookie cutters, but any monster that is summoned by the effect of Call of the Mummy should be treated as a monster summoned by Call of the Haunted, Monster Reborn, or Premature Burial as far as Solemn Judgment is concerned, because it is a external card effect that is summoning the monster, and not just a ordinary Summon.

As has been stated, Royal Oppression is the perfect fit here.
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So you're saying that activating the EFFECT of a Call Of The Mummy (that has obviously already resolved to the field) is the same as activating CoTH or Premature Burial in regards to Solemn Judgement?

From my understanding of Solemn Judgement it needs to negate the activation of the card that special summons the monster. In the case I've outlined Call Of The Mummy has already been activated and resolved to the field, only it's effect is being activated....it's too late to negate the card's activation....or are you saying that you can chain Solemn Judgement to the activation of the effect of Call Of The Mummy to negate and destroy Call Of The Mummy? <a bit confused as to your meaning>
 
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John Danker said:
So you're saying that activating the EFFECT of a Call Of The Mummy (that has obviously already resolved to the field) is the same as activating CoTH or Premature Burial in regards to Solemn Judgement?

From my understanding of Solemn Judgement it needs to negate the activation of the card that special summons the monster. In the case I've outlined Call Of The Mummy has already been activated and resolved to the field, only it's effect is being activated....it's too late to negate the card's activation....or are you saying that you can chain Solemn Judgement to the activation of the effect of Call Of The Mummy to negate and destroy Call Of The Mummy? <a bit confused as to your meaning>
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What I meant was, the Call of the Mummy's activation (placement on the field) is the only point in which it can be chained to by Solemn Judgment. If the monster is summoned to the field, Solemn Judgment has missed its timing to negate the summon, since the card itself has already resolved.
 
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That's what I'd assumed you meant....but I'm sometimes not as good at inteurpting people's written intentions as I should be ....which is why I married and English major <laffin> Thanks for your reply masterwoo0
 
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John Danker said:
That's what I'd assumed you meant....but I'm sometimes not as good at inteurpting people's written intentions as I should be ....which is why I married and English major <laffin> Thanks for your reply masterwoo0
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I'm sorry; did you say you're not as good at interrupting people as you should be?

*dodges Mr. Danker's fist, then runs away* :D
 
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