Can they come up with a consistant answer for once?!?

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This just came across the Judge List Wire. I will just post the relevant part:

Question
2. Vs. Threatening Roar

I know that if Waboku is used against Elemental Hero Wildheart, Waboku is not negated of course because it affects the damage not the Elemental Hero Wildheart. But what happens if Threatening Roar is used and a player still has an Elemental Hero Wildheart that can attack ? Can he attack with his Elemental Hero Wildheart or he still can't declare an attack with any of his monsters during that turn ?

Answer
2)
The player affected by "Threatening Roar" will not be able to declare an attack with "Elemental Hero Wildheart."


WHAT?!?

Let's look at something for a moment.

Swords of Revealing Light
Normal Spell

Flip all face-down monsters on your opponent's side of the field face-up. This card remains face-up on the field for 3 of your opponent's turns. As long as this card remains face-up on the field, your opponent cannot declare an attack.

Threatening Roar
Normal Trap

Your opponent cannot declare an attack this turn.

Ok we have 2 cards that say the exact same thing. 1 is for while it's face up, the other is just for a turn but they both say what I bolded. One is a Spell, the other is a Trap. Ok. Now, let's look at one of the "official" rulings from "Silent Swordsman LV5":

"¢ Just like "The Legendary Fisherman" and other monsters that are unaffected by Spell Cards, "Silent Swordsman LV5" can attack normally if your opponent has "Swords of Revealing Light" on the field, and its controller is unaffected by effects like "Toll" and "Gravekeeper's Servant" when "Silent Swordsman LV5" attacks.

So monsters that are immune to the effects of Spell Cards can declare an attack through Swords of Revealing Light, yet monsters that are immune to the effects of Trap Cards CANNOT declare an attack through Threatening Roar?

Would someone please like to explain the logic behind this?
 
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densetsu_x said:
Would someone please like to explain the logic behind this?
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Just imagine seeing the Penguin in Madagascar standing in front of you waving his fins saying, "You didnt see anything...", and it will be just like Konami saying, "You didnt see a Ruling that said Horus LV6 or Silent Swordsman LV5 can attack while Swords of Revealing Light is active."
 
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It's because they said that regardless of (wrong) translation SORL is affecting the monsters and not the player.

But Threatening Roar does affect the player.
 
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Fury said:
It's because they said that regardless of (wrong) translation SORL is affecting the monsters and not the player.

But Threatening Roar does affect the player.
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But what about the FAQ:

  • If a monster is unaffected by Spell Cards, that extends to any attacks the monster makes. A monster unaffected by Spell Cards can attack while "Swords of Revealing Light" is active, and its controller will not have to pay for "Toll" or "Gravekeeper's Servant" in order to attack with it. It can also ignore the effects of "The Dark Door" or "Vengeful Bog Spirit".

Unless they're saying it makes a difference between trap and spell cards, something is wrong.
 
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What I said was that the text or SORL doesnt say what the card is supposed to do (according to the developers in Japan). It has a wrong translation (or wording) and they are too lazy to make an errata that reflects that it is not affecting the players but the monsters.

Threatening Roar's text is OK, it affects players not monsters.

All those cards the FAQ mentions affect monsters (cards) and not the players. Like Gravity Bind is affecting monsters => Windheart can attack while active.

EDIT: Check out this old translation of SORL
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=6183
And I found the English one too:
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=4631
 
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tsk...tsk...tsk...Densetsu...you should know better...

http://lists.upperdeck.com/read/messages?id=9336#9336

Swords of Revealing Light
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Flip all face-down monsters on your opponent's side of the field face-up. This card remains face-up on the field for 3 of your opponent's turns. While this card is face-up on the field, MONSTERS ON YOUR OPPONENT'S SIDE OF THE FIELD CANNOT DECLARE ATTACKS.
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You are going by the wrong text.
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