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Cyber Jar Vs. Dark Jeroid, BTH
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the.wise.duelist
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once all the monsters are summoned by cyber jar and you put dark jeroid in attack mode you now select one monster to deduct their attack.
Maester Bacman
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OK, I see it this way:
Cyber Jar is Flip Summoned. The Flip Effect is activated and there are no cards activated in a Chain.
Cyber Jar resolves its effect completely. Dark Jeroid and Gemini Elf were Special Summoned in your side of the field. Two Archfiend Soldiers were Special Summoned on your opponent's side of the field.
Once the effect ends, Dark Jeroid activates its effect and you choose your Gemini Elf.
The problem is that, if you want to activate Bottomless Trap Hole, you have to do it in the same Chain, or you'll miss the timing.
Bottomless Trap Hole is activated in a Chain to Dark Jeroid's effect.
The chain is resolved. Bottomless Trap Hole removes the three 1900s. After that, Dark Jeroid does nothing, because the target was missed.
Cyber Jar is Flip Summoned. The Flip Effect is activated and there are no cards activated in a Chain.
Cyber Jar resolves its effect completely. Dark Jeroid and Gemini Elf were Special Summoned in your side of the field. Two Archfiend Soldiers were Special Summoned on your opponent's side of the field.
Once the effect ends, Dark Jeroid activates its effect and you choose your Gemini Elf.
The problem is that, if you want to activate Bottomless Trap Hole, you have to do it in the same Chain, or you'll miss the timing.
Bottomless Trap Hole is activated in a Chain to Dark Jeroid's effect.
The chain is resolved. Bottomless Trap Hole removes the three 1900s. After that, Dark Jeroid does nothing, because the target was missed.
Um... no.
Why? Because lets say "Dark Jeroid" was special summoned by "Monster Reborn" and there was enough extras on the field to raise his ATK to 1500 or above. Even though his effect activates automatically, the timing is still right to use "Bottomless Trap Hole" (see any ruling about using "Trap Hole", "Torrential Tribute" or "Bottomless Trap Hole" vs. a Normal Summoned "Breaker the Magical Warrior").
Just because a new chain starts, that doesn't mean the timing is off for other things to happen. You need to look at the last thing that resolved.
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Why? Because lets say "Dark Jeroid" was special summoned by "Monster Reborn" and there was enough extras on the field to raise his ATK to 1500 or above. Even though his effect activates automatically, the timing is still right to use "Bottomless Trap Hole" (see any ruling about using "Trap Hole", "Torrential Tribute" or "Bottomless Trap Hole" vs. a Normal Summoned "Breaker the Magical Warrior").
Just because a new chain starts, that doesn't mean the timing is off for other things to happen. You need to look at the last thing that resolved.
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densetsu_x said:Um... no.
Why? Because lets say "Dark Jeroid" was special summoned by "Monster Reborn" and there was enough extras on the field to raise his ATK to 1500 or above. Even though his effect activates automatically, the timing is still right to use "Bottomless Trap Hole" (see any ruling about using "Trap Hole", "Torrential Tribute" or "Bottomless Trap Hole" vs. a Normal Summoned "Breaker the Magical Warrior").
Just because a new chain starts, that doesn't mean the timing is off for other things to happen. You need to look at the last thing that resolved.
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I know how the system works with BTH and etc.
My question asks if a BTH can remove monsters summoned by Cyber Jar after Jeroid get its effect
I.E.-
(BTH is set on the field for one turn)
1. Cyber Jar's is activated during opponents main phase
2. Dark Jeroid, Breaker is summoned on your side of the field, opponent gets Archfiend Soldier and Berserk Gorrilla
3. Now the question, when can BTH activate? before or after Jeroid's effect resolves?
Dark Jeroid -> Bottomless Trap Hole
BTH resolves first removing those monsters 1500+ from play. Then Dark Jeroid's effect kicks in.
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BTH resolves first removing those monsters 1500+ from play. Then Dark Jeroid's effect kicks in.
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