D. D. Warrior Lady DCR-027

D. D. Warrior Lady
Effect Monster (Warrior / LIGHT / 4 Stars / ATK 1500 / DEF 1600)

When this card battles another monster, after Damage Calculation you can remove the opponent's monster and this card from play.


She's emerged as one of the staple cards for both Warrior and Chaos decks.  Her stats aren't bad but in most cases you aren't using her to try to inflict damage.  She's primarily there to be a problem-remover.  Have her do battle with a monster you'd like to get rid of and remove both from play.  Since most people are not running "Dimension Fusion" or "Return from the Different Dimension", you're not likely to see that problem monster return to the field.  Since her effect is optional, that gives you a little more control over using her effect.

Since her ATK falls right at the 1500 line, she's fairly easy to get onto the field by using searcher cards like "Shining Angel", "Last Will", and "Sangan".

Not much more really need be said.  Despite being a one-shot trick for the most part, she's not a card most people like seeing because of how disruptive her effect can be.  That alone makes her a solid edition to most deck types.

- Andrew
 
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A very versatile monster. Great for a bit of stall tactic when your opponent doesn't want to have to lose their own monster. Good problem solver to get rid of blockers such as Spirit Reaper, any heavy hitter or that Jinzo that is tripping up your traps. Great as one of the selections for Painful Choice in a chaos deck as your opponent really doesn't want to have to face her. Extremely searchable, Reinforcement of the Army, Freed the Matchless General, the forementioned Shining Angel, Last Will, and Sangan. About the only downside to a Chaos deck is using her effect takes her out of play and thus not available graveyard food for an Envoy.

Oh yeah, her ability is Skill Drain proof, unlike her big brother D.D. Assailant.
 
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her effect is not skill drain proof. if skill drain is active on the field her effect doesn't work.....simple as that.......

I love this card myself. optional effect that most people hate seeing. great monster in my opinion.
 
Hmmmm. I have to question this one. If you activate D.D. Warrior Lady's effect with Skill Drain on the field, it is a cost effect, just like Exiled Force.

You remove D.D.WL from the game to remove your opponents monster. Her effect does not resolve on the field, so there is nothing to negate with Skill DRain.
 
Well, according to the Skill Drain rulings, Exiled Force's effect activates in the graveyard, that's why it's not negated by Skill Drain. 

On the other hand, in Kevins Damage Step Chart, step 5 says the following:

[5] Resolve effects

>> From this point forward, monsters are considered
"destroyed". So monsters destroyed by "Dark Ruler Ha Des" cannot activate
their effects, destroyed monsters are not eligible for selection by card
effects such as "Hane Hane", etc.

>> Activate unresolved card effects now that do not activate
when a monster is sent to the Graveyard. Examples: all Flip Effects, "D. D.
Warrior Lady", "Wall of Illusion", and the effects of "Slate Warrior" and
"Royal Keeper" that increase their ATK and DEF. These effects form a chain
and then resolve.

Step 6 is then sending to the graveyard (and by extension RFG).

So I'd say, DDWL is affected by Skill Drain since her effect activates while still on the field.
 
"Activates" not "Resolves". Skill Drain does not prevent you from activating an effect. D.D. Warrior Lady removes herself from play as a "cost" so she is not effected by Skill Drain.
 
That's true.  But if you continue reading in Step 5, it goes on to say this:

These effects form a chain and then resolve.

Then step 6 happens where monsters are sent to the graveyard (& RFG).

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just trying to understand why DDWL would be treated differently than DD Assailant.  Is it just because she is a cost effect?  It can't be because she's no longer on the field at resolution because DD Assailant isn't on the field at resolution either and he's subject to Skill Drain.

Or is it because she is both a cost effect and is no longer on the field at the time of resolution?
 
Great card. Best used when your opponent summons a monster like Jinzo and gets removed by D. D. Warrior Lady's effect.

Have you guys ever duel to the point where your opponent top decked a Don Zaloog, Normal Summons it, attacked your face down D. D. Warrior Lady, and lost?

That tournament a couple weeks ago was priceless....  :D
 
jdos said:
That's true.  But if you continue reading in Step 5, it goes on to say this:

These effects form a chain and then resolve.

Then step 6 happens where monsters are sent to the graveyard (& RFG).

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just trying to understand why DDWL would be treated differently than DD Assailant.  Is it just because she is a cost effect?  It can't be because she's no longer on the field at resolution because DD Assailant isn't on the field at resolution either and he's subject to Skill Drain.

Or is it because she is both a cost effect and is no longer on the field at the time of resolution?
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You hit the nail on the head. Since it is a cost effect that removes itself from the field at activation it resolves without the monster being on the field.
 
Not to get totally off topic, but in that case, could you activate TIV's effect (with Skill Drain out) and call aqua, thus destroying himself and your opponent's Mobius and have it resolve properly because TIV is no longer on the field?

<originally edited this into my last post...but you're just so darn fast :) >
 
No. Because TIV does not remove itself as the cost of activating its effect. It would destroy itself at resolution because it is AQUA but is preventing from resolving by Skill Drain. That is why Exiled Force works. But Mobius doesn't.
 
I think I've got it now.  Thanks for the clarification  :D

Why am I NOT running DDWL in my Skill Drain deck?  GAH!   :bishop:

<Edit>  Ah crap, I know I'm overthinking this, but are you sure DDWL is a cost effect and not an optional trigger?  Battle being the trigger and the removal being the option?  Would that even make a difference?  I just question it because DDWL can't just offer herself and remove both from play, there's a condition that has to be met.  Is battle indeed a condition to activate the effect (making her a cost effect) or a trigger (making her an optional trigger)?  Maybe I should just post that part in the R&R section?
 
I actually know someone who runs a great Skill Drain deck and replaced the DDWL for DD Assailant when it came out. Then he was shocked that it didn't work.
 
You type way faster than I do...   :D

Please see my edit above.   :D
 
D.D. warrior lady is not a cost effect. her own removal is part of her effect not a cost to activate it. if it were it would say this

"When this monster battles another monster you can remove it from play to activate this effect. Remove the monster it battles from play"

if skill drain is active you can activate her ffect but it will be negated and nothing is removed
 
Can you give me any reference for that? I would love to stop DD Warrior Lady from removing my monsters when I go up against that Skill Drain deck.
 
no direct reffrence but this ruling explians it

"¢ When your "D. D. Warrior Lady" attacks "Wall of Illusion", if you activate her effect then "D. D. Warrior Lady" is Step 1 of the chain and "Wall of Illusion" is Step 2, "Wall of Illusion" resolves first and returns "D. D. Warrior Lady" to your hand, and then "D. D. Warrior Lady" resolves and "Wall of Illusion" (only) is removed from play.

Now as Game Mechanics dictate if it were a cost effect it means you remove her apon activating her effect. if this were true then she could not return to the players hand when wall of illusion's effect attempts to resolve. But as this Ruling states it returns d. d. Warrior lady to the owners hand meaning even though her effect is activated she remians on the field. this of coarse means her effect is not a cost effect.

Wall of illusion can not return a monster that is removed from play
 
Hinky said:
D.D. warrior lady is not a cost effect. her own removal is part of her effect not a cost to activate it. if it were it would say this

"When this monster battles another monster you can remove it from play to activate this effect. Remove the monster it battles from play"

if skill drain is active you can activate her ffect but it will be negated and nothing is removed
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Skill Drain - This card while active on the field will negate the resolution of monster effects of face-up monsters. This card does not
negate the Activation of the effect of a monster.  If the monster that activates the effect is not face-up on the field at the time the effect resolves, "Skill Drain" will not prevent the resolution of the effect.  This includes if the monster is turned face-down through an effect like "Book of Moon". This includes if the monster is temporarily removed from the field through an effect like "Interdimensional Matter Transporter". This includes if the monster is destroyed through an effect like "Ring of Destruction".
 
Actually Hinky is correct. DDWL is still on the field when her effect takes place and would be negated by Skill Drain.

And ofcourse I brought somthing to back me up as usual. :cool:

From: "scaryguy20902" <blankauctions@h...>
Date: Thu Mar 4, 2004 11:54 am
Subject: D.D. Warrior Lady and Skill Drain - Guardian Tryce

would Skill Drain negate DDWL or does DDWL effect technically occur
off the field?

Answer:

1. "Skill Drain" would negate "D.D. Warrior Lady's" effect. The effect resolves
while "D.D. Warrior Lady" is on the field.

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Since I found no other ruling that is more current This is how it works.

Do I get a cookie for my efforts?
 
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