Dark Magician of Chaos vs: Ring of destruction

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Javario

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Hey,

If I tribute or special summon my dmoc and as soon as I summon (normal or special), and they ring of destruction my Dark Magician of Chaos do I get my effect? The effect of receiving a magic card from my graveyard, since he was successfully summoned.


I appreciate all replies but I would like to get the attention of a Moderator!

-Javario
 
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Javario said:
Hey,

If I tribute or special summon my dmoc and as soon as I summon (normal or special), and they ring of destruction my Dark Magician of Chaos do I get my effect? The effect of receiving a magic card from my graveyard, since he was successfully summoned.


I appreciate all replies but I would like to get the attention of a Moderator!

-Javario
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This is what I think.
Yes, Dark Magician is destroy but you will retrieve a Spell Card from the Graveyard.
 
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Yes of course you still get to take a spell card from your graveyard, the only way this will be prevented is if the summon is negated by Horn of Heaven or Solemn Judgement.
 
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DMoC hits the field, his effect activates. At this time the oppoent chains RoD to the activation of the effect.

RoD destroys DMoC, and DMoC is removed from play, then DMoC's effect resolves and you get to retrieve a spell card from your graveyard.
 
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One more thing, same situation with different trap. If they bottomless my dmoc do I get effect, or if I tribute summon him and they trap hole him do I get effect?


(the effect of getting a magic card)
-Javario
 
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Yes you do, as of your are the player with priority. Until you give up your turn or ask your opponent would he like to respond to the summonning. Its effect still takes place.... Greg
 
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This is where Judgment of Anubis could come in handy depending on what spell the controller brought back lol. Destroy and negate the spell AND a one way ring effect that ultimately removes DMoC from play.
 
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You will always get to recover your Magic Card, except when:

- The monster is summoned between links of a chain, not in the end of the chain.
- The summon is NEGATED [Solemn Judgment or Horn of Heaven or others].
- You don't have any Magic cards in your graveyard.  :p
 
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actually his effect would be triggered if he summoned DMoC during a chain, since his effect is mandatory. The othertimes when he can't get his effect is:

- When End of Anubis is on the field
- When Necrovalley is on the field and the controller possess no Gravekeeper's Chief
 
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chenw said:
actually his effect would be triggered if he summoned DMoC during a chain, since his effect is mandatory. The othertimes when he can't get his effect is:

- When End of Anubis is on the field
- When Necrovalley is on the field and the controller possess no Gravekeeper's Chief
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DMoC's effect of retrieving a spell card is optional, not manditory.

The text on the card:
"When this card is Normal Summoned or Special Summoned successfully, you can add 1 Spell Card from your Graveyard to your hand..."

So if it was resolved in the middle of a chain, the effect would not go through.

- Andrew
 
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Maester Bacman said:
You will always get to recover your Magic Card, except when:

- The monster is summoned between links of a chain, not in the end of the chain.
- The summon is NEGATED [Solemn Judgement or Horn of Heaven or others].
- You don't have any Magic cards in your graveyard.  :p
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Ok, attention and answer...

Maester Bacman's reply is pretty complete.  I would also add:
-Either player wins the duel in the middle of the chain and the "end of the chain" never happens...

oh, and densetsu_x is correct, the effect is optional. (therefore, needs to be at the end of the chain)
 
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somewan said:
Maester Bacman said:
You will always get to recover your Magic Card, except when:

- The monster is summoned between links of a chain, not in the end of the chain.
- The summon is NEGATED [Solemn Judgement or Horn of Heaven or others].
- You don't have any Magic cards in your graveyard. :p
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Ok, attention and answer...

Maester Bacman's reply is pretty complete. I would also add:
-Either player wins the duel in the middle of the chain and the "end of the chain" never happens...
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Also, if the summoning isn't the last part of the last effect of the chain.
 
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somewan is right.

Raijinili said:
Also, if the summoning isn't the last part of the last effect of the chain.
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Correct. Then, don't expect that a Rope of Life will help you recovering a Magic Card if you select your Dark Magician of Chaos that was just sent to the graveyard as a result of battle, because the last thing that happens is the ATK increase, not the Special Summon.
NOTE: Yes, this case is possible; just have some imagination or a well-equipped Dark Ruler Ha-des. :D

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Hey. Now that I see the first official ruling of Dark Magician of Chaos:

"When you Normal Summon or Special Summon "Dark Magician of Chaos", resolve all other effects in the current chain, then "Dark Magician of Chaos"' effect activates in a new chain as Step 1."

Is it just me, or there is something strange here? :?
 
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Man I don't know what your problem is, but DMoC can't get his effect if he is hit with a ring because his effect is a chain. He[size=10pt]HAS TO BE SUCCESSFULLY SUMMONED [/size] Normal or Special, and if he is hit by a ring, he isn't there... KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!!!!!:mrgreen:
 
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Maester Bacman said:
don't expect that a Rope of Life will help you recovering a Magic Card if you select your Dark Magician of Chaos that was just sent to the graveyard as a result of battle, because the last thing that happens is the ATK increase, not the Special Summon.
NOTE: Yes, this case is possible; just have some imagination or a well-equipped Dark Ruler Ha-des. :D
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If DMofC is destroyed as a result battle, or simply got destroyed, or is removed from the field, it is removed from play.


Maester Bacman said:
Hey. Now that I see the first official ruling of Dark Magician of Chaos:

"When you Normal Summon or Special Summon "Dark Magician of Chaos", resolve all other effects in the current chain, then "Dark Magician of Chaos"' effect activates in a new chain as Step 1."

Is it just me, or there is something strange here? :?
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Yeah, I don't quite understand this either. Looks like DMofC's effect starts a new chain. :argh:
 
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AngryBlackMan said:
Man I don't know what your problem is, but DMoC can't get his effect if he is hit with a ring because his effect is a chain. He[size=10pt]HAS TO BE SUCCESSFULLY SUMMONED [/size] Normal or Special, and if he is hit by a ring, he isn't there... KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!!!!!:mrgreen:
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It doesn't matter if it is destroyed. Ring of Destruction will never negate the Successful Summon, which is the requirement for activating the effect. Solemn Judgment can.

Raigekick, what happened? :-o the note!! :wink:

Well, it is normal that Dark Magician of Chaos starts a new chain, but what looks pretty strange is the fact that:

"When you Normal Summon or Special Summon "Dark Magician of Chaos", resolve all other effects in the current chain, then "Dark Magician of Chaos"' effect activates in a new chain as Step 1."

I shows "Dark Magician of Chaos"' effect as a mandatory one. It is not saying that the summon must happen at the end of the effect of the end of the chain, since it is an optional effect.

Any thoughts? Ideas? Or is it just that I'm looking a mirage?
 
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