Ectoplasmic Subjugation

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solitarywolf17

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"Ectoplasmer extracts the very soul of my monster, and turns it into an energy so powerful that it can penetrate your cage and destroy the rest of your lifepoints."

~Yami-Bakura~


Now then on to the deck, ever since I learned of Ectoplasmer I have always wanted to be able to run one efficiently and effectively. Unfortunately I would have to wait until the release of SOD. Once this was out I immediatly found three copies and went to work on building the deck. It has gone through many tests and duels, and has even had the pleasure of going through 2 ban lists, so here it is in its completed form.

Well until they release newer cards that flow with the theme. :)


Deck Name: Ectoplasmic Subjugation
Deck Type: Stall/Burn
Creator: solitarywolf17

Ectoplasmic Subjugation: {40}

Monsters: {15}
Sangan
Cyber Jar
Morphing Jar
Guardian Sphinx
Des Koala (2)
Stealth Bird (3)
Golem Sentry (3)
Malice Doll of Demise (3)

Spells: {18}
Dark Hole
Scapegoat
Premature Burial
Monster Recovery
Swords of Revealing Light
Level Limit - Area B (2)
Wave Motion-Cannon (2)
Ectoplasmer (3)
Giant Trunade (3)
Messenger of Peace (3)

Traps: {7}
Ceasefire
Magic Cylinder
Gravity Bind (2)
Cursed Seal of the Forbidden Spell (3)

Side Deck: {15}
Des Lacooda (2)
Swarm of Locusts (2)
Snatch Steal
Soul Exchange (2)
Chain Energy (3)
Call of the Haunted
Chain Dissapearance (2)
Compulsory Evacuation Device (2)

*EDIT* Updated the Main Deck, also the side deck for a Chain Energy Switchout.

Now, I guess, on to the rules:

-I will Rate, and maybe fix, if you at least leave a rate. (If you go beyond just a rate, you can be assured I will do the same)

-Do not suggest Solemn Judgment(s). I cannot use them.

-No Des Wombat. It will not help.

-No Dumb R/F. ie. "You should run Skull Servant!"

Other than that have fun, and keep it clean.

-solitarywolf17-
 
I really like the look of this deck. Almost makes me want to try out my Ectoplasmers again.

Guardian Sphinx is a really nice touch here. I almost think you should add in another, but I don't want to mess with the synergy going on.

There's really not much I would do with it, just wanted to give you kudos for a solidly built deck.
 
It wasn't meant to harsh, no. If it was, I apologize. It just seems like a very... awkward? build to me.
-pssvr
 
Awkward? Possibly.
Original? Definately.
Deadlier? Absolutely.

The point of this deck wasn't to be as agressive as what is originally conceived of as an Ectoplasmer. While it is true that an agressively aimed Ectoplasmer is very powerful, the fact of the matter is that most of the cards you have mentioned that "should" be in an Ecto deck, don't have any potential to hurt my deck. The downside side with any Ecto deck, is that it is very hard to maintain field control, with the loss of your monsters at the end of every turn, not only that, this continual use of resources can actually Backfire and leave you with very few options very quickly. However, this deck re-uses its resources, so as not to hinder the availability of options too quickly.
Besides, the burn route is just a lot more fun to play, than the simplistic Agroplasmer. :)

Anyways, while you did seem a little harsh, all's good and well.
Just remember not all decks are the same,(except CC's and even those have some differences) and everyones take on what a certain deck should look like can be different and it doesn't mean its any less playable.

John Danker- I have actually thought of that, and it is a dandy combo. But while its great for drawing power, and gaining resources, since it happens at the end phase (where I cannot set anything I draw) it makes me way too succeptible to a simple Card Destruction, or a Morphing Jar not to mention that I will have to start discarding if I go over six cards. The combo is great but it is truly difficult to put to maximum potential in here, not to mention it would be hard to find space in here and not destroy the synergy I have.

DarkMagic Ruler- Thanks, glad you like it.

Well, thank you all very much for giving me some excellent feedback. And I will try to get back to you all as quickly as possible with your R/F's to the decks you all have.

Thanks again.

-solitarywolf17-
 
Thank you for not being offended by my statement. Now, I understand that not all decks are the same. However, it seems to me that the goal of any Ectoplasmer deck would be to tribute off monsters that are no good to you. Hence, things like Brain Control and Goblin Elite Attack Force come to mind, since the monsters will not be helpful after the end of the turn. Therefore, you lose almost nothing by sac-ing them for ecto. But I suppose it is my opinion against yours, and since it's your deck...
-pssvr
 
pssvr said:
Thank you for not being offended by my statement. Now, I understand that not all decks are the same. However, it seems to me that the goal of any Ectoplasmer deck would be to tribute off monsters that are no good to you. Hence, things like Brain Control and Goblin Elite Attack Force come to mind, since the monsters will not be helpful after the end of the turn. Therefore, you lose almost nothing by sac-ing them for ecto. But I suppose it is my opinion against yours, and since it's your deck...
-pssvr
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I understand what it is your saying, and and while it is true we do have a differing of opinion, I don't want you to feel like you shouldn't contribute. I actually enjoy learning about the other side of the coin, I myself do have another build of the Ecto deck which does use a majority of the cards you have referred to.
The truth is Ecto is just one of those cards that can have a place for many uses/strategies, and when you form your deck around one use in particular, your deck naturally will look and play differently than another deck stressing a different use/strategy.
Neither of us is wrong, in our opinions, and as such, I want to hear more of your thoughts and opinions. The only thing I wanted to get across in the last post was that I wanted to get feedback a little more relative to the deck as it is. Thats all..

Well, all I can say is thank you once again for your help, and please don't take offense to anything I have said (typed), I don't mean anything posted here to be taken in the wrong light.

To everyone who has helped I thank you all very much, and I hope to hear more from you and other members of this board.

-solitarywolf17-

(Hmm... I wonder if I should put another build of the Ecto deck, that a fellow deckbuilder, and friend, created which will show another route that the Ectodeck can take?)
 
A new day, and a new hope.
Lol!
Anyway, I was hoping to get some more reviews on my deck, or even on my side deck switch out deck. Here's what a normal switch would look like.

Switch-Out Deck:
Chain Energy Subjugation: {40}

Monsters: {15}
Sangan
Morphing Jar
Penguin Soldier
Guardian Sphinx
Des Koala (2)
Stealth Bird (2)
Des Lacooda (2)
Swarm of Locusts(2)
Golem Sentry (3)

Spells: {17}
Dark Hole
Scapegoat
Premature Burial
Snatch Steal
Swords of Revealing Light
Level Limit - Area B (2)
Messenger of Peace (2)
Wave Motion-Cannon (2)
Chain Energy (3)
Giant Trunade (3)

Traps: {8}
Ceasefire
Compulsory Evacuation Device
Call of the Haunted
Gravity Bind (2)
Cursed Seal of the Forbidden Spell (3)

Side Deck: {15} (If switch out is made)
Cyber Jar
Stealth Bird
Malice Doll of Demise (3)
Monster Recovery
Messenger of Peace
Soul Exchange (2)
Ectoplasmer (3)
Magic Cylinder
Chain Dissapearance (2)


Love to hear feedback. Thanks a bundle.
And as always R/F are returned.

-solitarywolf17-
 
Any thoughts, or comments?

Don't forget you don't have to just R/F the maindedck, you can also R/F the side deck, or the side deck switch out.

Hope to hear some good things soon.

-solitarywolf17-
 
solitarywolf17 said:
Any thoughts, or comments?

Don't forget you don't have to just R/F the maindedck, you can also R/F the side deck, or the side deck switch out.

Hope to hear some good things soon.

-solitarywolf17-
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I like the "two-deck" theme. I did that once with Exodia and Harpies and I ended up killing more than pulling the five pieces. Amazing what a couple ducks can do. LOL
Maybe consider Pot of Avarice from EEN to refuel the deck with monsters for Ecto's consumption. ;) Better yet, throw in a couple Lava Golems and if you have a token on the field, Creature Swap them and burn Lava Golem with ecto. LOL
 
OKShadow said:
I like the "two-deck" theme. I did that once with Exodia and Harpies and I ended up killing more than pulling the five pieces. Amazing what a couple ducks can do. LOL
Maybe consider Pot of Avarice from EEN to refuel the deck with monsters for Ecto's consumption. ;) Better yet, throw in a couple Lava Golems and if you have a token on the field, Creature Swap them and burn Lava Golem with ecto. LOL
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I actually have consider PoA, and I finally got one in a pack, so I am currently playtesting it. It seems to be okay so far.....

Also, the only reason I would hate to have a L. Golem, is because well... if I ran Golem I would need two of them, and then I would need the two Creature Swaps, and then I would have to give them one of my monsters. Almost all of which can get around Ectoplasmer (and have strong Manual Flip effects). It just doesn't seem too appealing.....
PLus I just don't have the room to add four new cards, and not destroy some sort of synergy the deck has between cards.

Also anything that lets them get ahold of one of my flippers, is a card I want to stop. Only because it is hard for me to combat a card that was made to abuse the Ectoplasmer... I can remember one time when my opponent almost killed me because they got off a Creature Swap, and took my Golem Sentry... they just kept returning my monsters to my hand, and never had to worry about losing Golem Sentry since it got around Ecto....In the end I got lucky and pulled my Ceasefire, and that was the only thing that saved me. Since then I have learned my lesson, and taken steps to assure that I won't have so much trouble next time, but the situation is still one that can be tough to get out of.
 
djsb1312 said:
o.k you definately need some cards the take over your opponents monsters like Snatch Steal,Jowls of Dark Demise,Enemy Controller,Brain Control,Brain Jacker.you really need some of those.
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?????
Okay....I'm gonna say no to all but Snatch Steal, and even that one is a stretch.(but not really)
Before you start coming back, and saying how wrong I am, that all these cards are so great in this format, and such and such........

Jowls - what an iffy card, I mean, it has to be flip summoned by me, in order for it to work in here, and while I can do that, I would only be able to do it once. No-reuse, no inclusion.(unless it has a high enough def, or a burn ability){koala anyone}

Enemy Controller - Uh no, the whole point is for me to retain field advantage, Scapegoat is only another stall in here, not a combo possibility. (can only target a face up monster)

Brain Control - Another no no, paying 800 lp is just not an option, I already use up too many lp as it is, and adding another lp payment, is just bad for me. (can only target a face up monster)

Brain Jacker - Just like jowls, no? minus the direct attacking thing though. He also does take up a s/t space making him a nuisance, and even then he dies when the opponents monster is tributed to ecto, so he would detract from field presence. (can only target a face up monster)

Also, just so you know, if I play the way I almost always do, my opponent, hardly ever has a monster, or only has 1 at most to protect themselves, I would rather return that monster to my opponents hand(via golem/sphinx), attack under the binds/LL-AB/MoP, and then trib my M. Doll of D. at the end of the turn; than destroy that monster. (besides having them have to only limit themselves to just 1 mon a trun is fun, and then to know that the selected mon will only be sent back to their hand.) {Also after a while they only start setting mons, and none of those cards you mentioned, save Jowls, can do anything against a face down monster.}

As for the Snatch, well, thanks, I guess, I really don't use it in here, but It would be fun to use, I'll see if maybe I could fit it in.

-solitarywolf17-
 
"Ectoplasmer extracts the very soul of my monster, and turns it into an energy so powerful that it can penetrate your cage and destroy the rest of your lifepoints."

~Yami-Bakura~
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While I'm strongly against posting on a Deck thread without suggestions for the deck, I'm going to be hypocritical and point out that I believe it was Arkana/Pandora/whoever who said that, not Yami-Bakura.

-pssvr
 
pssvr said:
While I'm strongly against posting on a Deck thread without suggestions for the deck, I'm going to be hypocritical and point out that I believe it was Arkana/Pandora/whoever who said that, not Yami-Bakura.

-pssvr
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It was Bakura in the series, who said that.
Before the start of the tournament, he challenged the 3 stupid guys. He was locked inside a cage, and then activated Ectoplasmer to tribute his Earls of Dark Demise to finish them off (the duel was at the graveyard).
 
BenjaminMS, is right, pssvr.

It was in the series, when (Yami) Bakura dueled Bonz, while his buddies the other two dumb guys watched. Anyways, long story short, Bonz Played Nightmare Steel Cage, and was talking about how Bakura was stuck...., then Bakuras Turn he draws Ecto, plays it, and then spouts the line.

Hope that clears up any confusion.

-solitarywolf17-
 
solitarywolf17 said:
BenjaminMS, is right, pssvr.

It was in the series, when (Yami) Bakura dueled Bonz, while his buddies the other two dumb guys watched. Anyways, long story short, Bonz Played Nightmare Steel Cage, and was talking about how Bakura was stuck...., then Bakuras Turn he draws Ecto, plays it, and then spouts the line.

Hope that clears up any confusion.

-solitarywolf17-
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pssvr said:
Bonz?
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Confusion cleared. But FYI, Pandora/Arkana also used Ectoplasmer, and gave a similar speech.

-pssvr
 
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