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luffy

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Perhaps this term is one of those that stays in my mind for a long period of time. It's time I trash this out.

Exhaust

"Exhaust" is an event that gives an object the exhausted characteristic and takes away the ready characteristic.

Exhausted

Exhausted is a characteristic that an object may have. Players represent objects with the exhausted characteristic by rotating those objects 90 degrees. An object always has either the exhausted characteristic or the ready characteristic, but never both.


Professor X-World's Most Powerful Telepath,allows me to exhaust an exhausted character. So am I right to say that I can exhaust an exhausted character unless the card text specify that I exhaust a ready character or it has the text "Activate" in it.
 
Okay, Professor X, World's Most Powerful Telepath's text reads"

Activate >>> Exhaust target character with a cost of 5 or less. That character's controller loses endurance equal to the target's ATK.

Nowhere does he say he can exhaust an already exhausted character. The definition you quoted show that this is impossible.
 
Digital Jedi said:
Okay, Professor X, World's Most Powerful Telepath's text reads"

Activate >>> Exhaust target character with a cost of 5 or less. That character's controller loses endurance equal to the target's ATK.

Nowhere does he say he can exhaust an already exhausted character. The definition you quoted show that this is impossible.
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I don't get you. What I think is as long as the text does not say exhaust a ready character, I can exhaust any character, regardless ready or exhausted.

Another thing is about stunned. Is stunned considered to be in exhausted, ready or just stun mode? Is the character's equipment still ready? Which means is the effect of equipment still on?
 
luffy said:
I don't get you. What I think is as long as the text does not say exhaust a ready character, I can exhaust any character, regardless ready or exhausted.
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You can exhaust an exhausted character as long as its part of the effect, not the cost, and as long as the effect does not say something like "exhaust ready character".

luffy said:
Another thing is about stunned. Is stunned considered to be in exhausted, ready or just stun mode? Is the character's equipment still ready? Which means is the effect of equipment still on?
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Well, a stunned character has exhausted characterstics in that it gets exhausted before being stunnned, but it has stun characteristics as well. Read through the stun[ned] section in the FAQ.

Equips would stay equipped to stunned characters, and their text box would be considered blank.
 
luffy said:
I don't get you. What I think is as long as the text does not say exhaust a ready character, I can exhaust any character, regardless ready or exhausted.

Another thing is about stunned. Is stunned considered to be in exhausted, ready or just stun mode? Is the character's equipment still ready? Which means is the effect of equipment still on?
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It may be what you think, but if you reread the comprehensive rules again you'l notice that it is not so. An effect giving a character the exhausted chracteristic must legally be able to do so. If the card already has the exhausted chracteristic a player cannot fullfil the protion of the effect that gives an object the exhausted characteristic and takes away the ready characteristic.

One must exist for the other be applied.
 
*edit: oops, I was wrong about the ruling...From the MOR FAQ:

Professor X, World's Most Powerful Telepath
Character, X-Men, Recruit 7
Recruit Professor X only if you control an X-Men character.
Activate >>> Exhaust target character with a cost of 5 or less. That character's controller loses endurance equal to the target's ATK.

"”You can target an already exhausted character with Professor X's power. That character's controller will still lose endurance equal to the character's ATK.
 
I see now that the ruling lets you target an already exhausted character. But this is apparently due to the fact that Proff X has a two fold effect. One that exhuasts and one that burns. Rest assured that this wold not be possible if the whole effect hinged on the chracter exhausting.

You still cannot exhaust an already exhausted character.
 
Fiendish Envoy said:
You can exhaust an exhausted character as long as its part of the effect, not the cost, and as long as the effect does not say something like "exhaust ready character".
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I guess you cannot exhaust exhausted character(s) of willpower 4 to activate Central Power Battery's ability. However, I can exhaust the same character when my opponent uses Puppet Master on me. Is that true? Sounds rather strange for the case of Puppet Master.



chaosruler said:
No, it will not.

-chaosruler
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According to http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/op/vs_rules/files/MarvelOriginsCardFAQ4-21.doc
it says that the opponent still loses endurance. I guess this is beginning to become a rather long and difficult to understand mechanics of the game. Can anyone clear my doubts?
 
ack, so they will. Also, Puppet Master says:
Puppet Master, Philip Masters

Character, Unaffiliated, 2

0/2

Activate >>> Target player exhausts a ready character he controls.

That character must be ready, hence, no you can't.


-chaosruler
 
luffy said:
According to http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/op/vs_rules/files/MarvelOriginsCardFAQ4-21.doc
it says that the opponent still loses endurance. I guess this is beginning to become a rather long and difficult to understand mechanics of the game. Can anyone clear my doubts?
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Opps... I have made a mistake on the effect of Puppet Master. How about the above one? Can anyone clarify that? Maybe I shall try:

You can exhaust an exhausted character as long as it is not the cost to do so. Which means you can target an exhausted character for burning etc. The effects still apply. You can chain to exhausting an opponent's monster when it is activating it's activated ability, but you cannot negate the cost of the exhuastion and hence, it's activated ability will still resolve. In other words, cards like Mystical Paralysis can exhaust the exhausted character, but the activated ability is not negated and will carry on to resolve. Finally, you cannot exhaust character that is exhausted as a cost to acitvate it's activated ability or other card's ability such as Central Power Battery which requires exhaustion to continue it's effect. (Draw card in Central Power Battery's case)

Are the above information right and have I leaked out anything or gave the wrong inofrmation?
 
If your reffering to the ruling that says you may target a character that is already exhausted with Xavier but still inflict damage equal to his attack, this is no doubt due to the fact that the portion of the effect that inflicts damage is a seperate sentence and not dependant on the first sentence. A seperate sentance will denote a seperate portion of the effect.
 
Professor X can target an exhausted (or even stunned) character with his effect. The only targeting requirement is that the character has a cost of 5 or less. The Prof will do as much as possible with his effect, so if the character is already exhausted, it will stay exhausted. Professor X's burn effect is not dependent upon exhausting the character, so the controller of the targeted character will lose END equal to the targeted character's ATK.

The text you want to look for, to see if one part of an effect is dependent on another, is 'if you do'. Look at Heat Vision, Narrow Escape, or Terra, for example. Those cards have conditions that must be met earlier in the effect in order for the later part of the effect to work. If a defender is targeted by Heat Vision, but is already exhausted when the effect resolves, Heat Vision won't be the effect to exhaust it. The text after 'If you do' won't apply.
 
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