Fenrir+Umiiruka Water Deck

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drzero7

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Not Meta Material but does follow the Advanced ruling.

And this is another Post SOI cause I added 1 card from Shadow of Infinity sets.

Tribute - 3
Mobius the Frost Monarch
Mobius the Frost Monarch
Mobius the Frost Monarch

Non-Tribute - 17
Abyss Soldier
Abyss Soldier
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Fenrir
Fenrir
Fenrir
Hydrogeddon
Hydrogeddon
Hydrogeddon
Magician of Faith
Mother Grizzly
Mother Grizzly
Mother Grizzly
Yomigaeru (Yomi Frog, SOI card)
Yomi Ship
Yomi Ship
Yomi Ship

Spells
Dark Hole
Heavy Storm
Mystical Space Typhoon
Nobleman of Crossout
Premature Burial
Rush Recklessly
Rush Recklessly
Smashing Ground
Smashing Ground
Snatch Steal
Umiiruka
Umiiruka

Traps
Call of the Haunted
Dust Tornado
Mirror Wall
Mirror Wall
Ojama Trio
Sakuretsu Armor
Sakuretsu Armor
Spiritual Water Art - Aoi

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BTW, can I Creature Swap one of my monsters and kill it with Fenrir and still activate Fenrir's effect? If that's no illegal, then I might change this deck to Swap Fenrir lock instead.

Like add 3x Poison Draw Frog + 3x Ameba + 2x Creature Swap and 3x Mystic Box, and yeah, you know where I'm going with this.

I mean think about it. I hit my swapped Poison Draw Frog with my Fenrir, and it literally became a Pot of Greed cause I gain 1 card while my foe lost 1 draw chance so it's 2 card net gain in theory.

Of course, in that kinda weenie deck theme, I should also throw in 3x Ojama Trio to keep the lock in along with stuff like maybe throwing in Donny hitting Poison Draw Frog.
 
BTW, can I Creature Swap one of my monsters and kill it with Fenrir and still activate Fenrir's effect? If that's no illegal, then I might change this deck to Swap Fenrir lock instead.
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Perfectly legal.

I have a Water Deck posted (in the Advance Format Section) that also runs Umiirika, called Lyquid. It's nice to see someone realize it's potential. I'm also running Abyss Soldier for the potenial abuse. I like the idea of swapping a Poison Draw Frog and then attacking with Fenrir. I could see this deck being very competitive with the right tweeks.
 
Usually, the best choice for Mystic Box combo IMO is Cyber Dragon. (Cause after Mystic Box swap, you have no monsters while your foe got 1 weenie monster on the field, it's begging to be Cyber'D.)

But Fenrir can do the similar justice cause it's also a special summoning. (And thus asked the question.) Too bad Hydrogeddon doesn't work on this cause Hydrogeddon must kill a foe's monster in result of battle and send it to the foe's graveyard to activate it's effect.

And it's hard to use Salvage to pull out your Poison Draw Frog and Ameba cause Fenrir is fueling on them.
Of course, in a draw-lock deck, a card like Spiritual Water Art - Aoi is kinda awesome. And you can look and pick meaning no Dark World nuking.
 
looks good, but needs fine tuning

Creature Swap is a must....swap them a grizzly, kill it with a hydrogedon....you get to special summon 2 more monsters...another hydrogedon and another 1500 or less due to grizzly.

Salvage is another must have in this deck...it helps Recycle the Abyss Soldier fodder....Pot of Avarice is also a good idea to put those dead hydro's back into your deck for special summoning later....just remember to leave a few wter monsters in the gy for summoning Fenrir.

speaking of Fenrir, i suggest dropping one....1 is bad in a Fenrir deck, 3 just leads to bad hands....2 works for me. I also suggest dropping breaker and a Yomi Ship....breaker isnt really needed with all the m/t removal you already have in the deck and 3 yomi's is overkill. add an Aqua Spirit for breaker (Aqua Spirit is hydrogedon's friend) and a Nightmare Penguin for the Yomi Ship (any extra attack will benefit the Fenrirs and hydros)

the trap lineup is a bit off as well. Ojama Trio does not work with Fenrirs effect...Fenrir must destroy a monster and send it to the graveyard, and tokens dont go to the graveyard. i recommend Ceasefire as a Ojama Trio replacement....will deal a nice chunk of damage (especially with the hydro-swarm) and puts those facedown threats in a more Fenrir/hydro friendly face up position.


i love the idea of the weenie swap too.....you could turn this deck into a conversion deck, and side in all those weenie swap cards to totally change the focus of this deck between duels

EDIT: Ignore what I said about Fenrir and Ojama Trio....I'm obviuosly retarded and I got mixed up...Fenrir does work with trio quite nicely
 
Creature Swap is a must....swap them a grizzly, kill it with a hydrogedon....you get to special summon 2 more monsters...another hydrogedon and another 1500 or less due to grizzly.
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No, if I swap Mother Grizzly and smack with Hydrogeddon, only Grizzly effect activates. Cause Hydrogeddon must destroy an opponent's monster as a result of battle and sent it to your "opponent's" graveyard. So yeah, that'll just pull out another Grizzly and that's it.

Salvage is another must have in this deck...it helps Recycle the Abyss Soldier fodder....Pot of Avarice is also a good idea to put those dead hydro's back into your deck for special summoning later....just remember to leave a few wter monsters in the gy for summoning Fenrir.
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Well, first of all, Salvage can only pick up lvl 4 or lower WATER monsters that are 1500ATK or less. That means I can only pick up Mother Grizzly and Yomi Ship. (I can pick up Yomigaeru... but that's totally pointless) And remember that if I'm running Fenrir, it's impossible to use Pot of Avarice cause it'll be rare to have 5 monsters on my graveyard. And if I add Salvage, I need more 1500ATK or less monsters and cut Fenrir and can't really use Aqua Spirit too.

speaking of Fenrir, i suggest dropping one....1 is bad in a Fenrir deck, 3 just leads to bad hands....2 works for me. I also suggest dropping breaker and a Yomi Ship....breaker isnt really needed with all the m/t removal you already have in the deck and 3 yomi's is overkill. add an Aqua Spirit for breaker (Aqua Spirit is hydrogedon's friend) and a Nightmare Penguin for the Yomi Ship (any extra attack will benefit the Fenrirs and hydros)
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Well, this is why I'm running quick drawing monsters like Grizzily and Hydrogeddon and monsters that's meant to be nuked like Yomi Ship. (And my Grizzily can pull out Yomi Ship.) I got Umiiruka so Nightmare Penguin is pointless. (And cause of Umiiruka, I don't really want my monsters on defense position) Aqua Spirit is a good suggestion though cause yeah, it'll ease my Fenrir/Hydrogeddon bit.
the trap lineup is a bit off as well. Ojama Trio does not work with Fenrirs effect...Fenrir must destroy a monster and send it to the graveyard, and tokens dont go to the graveyard. i recommend Ceasefire as a Ojama Trio replacement....will deal a nice chunk of damage (especially with the hydro-swarm) and puts those facedown threats in a more Fenrir/hydro friendly face up position.
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Umm... yes it can. Fenrir just have to destroy a monster. So I can destroy a swapped monster from mine, a token, whatever as long as I destroy something and not a direct attack. (I'll kiss my foe when they chain Scapegoat.)

EDIT: Ignore what I said about Fenrir and Ojama Trio....I'm obviuosly retarded and I got mixed up...Fenrir does work with trio quite nicely
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LOL! yeah, what I said.

And about Fenrir Swap deck, check this one out instead.

http://www.cogonline.net/showthread.php?p=117626#post117626

Pure Draw-Lock of my foe.
 
drzero7 said:
No, if I swap [url="http://www.cogonline.net/showthread.php?p=117627#"]Mother Grizzly[/url] and smack with Hydrogeddon, only Grizzly effect activates. Cause Hydrogeddon must destroy an opponent's monster as a result of battle and sent it to your "opponent's" graveyard. So yeah, that'll just pull out another Grizzly and that's it.
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Hydrogeddon's effect work's just like any other monster that has an effect when it destroys an opponent's monster as a result of battle. What matters is that it destroyed a monster as a result of battle. The effect is not dependant on the Graveyard it goes to:

http://lists.upperdeck.com/read/messages?id=7354#7354
If I played "Creature Swap" and I select a "Mother Grizzly" to switch with my opponent's monster. I then proceed to attack "Mother Grizzly" with my "Hydrogeddon".

Would both effect activate? If so, and I choose to placed "Hydrogeddon"'s effect on chain link two and "Mother Grizzly"'s effect on chain link one, would any of them miss their timing?


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Answer:

Both effects will activate and form a chain.

You will not "miss the timing."

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id lose the yomigaeru

you would have the umiruka on the field so he couldnt be special summoned but thats just me
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There'll be PLENTY of times when Umiiruka won't be on the field. Especially if the foe bust it. Keeping 1x on the graveyard for free Mobius summoning when needed is too good to take out. And it's especially good in the late games where monster presence is key. (When both people would have run out of resources with blank fields and would be top decking. Yomigaeru is GOD! Why ya think Sinister Serpent got banned?) But of course, adding more then 1 Yomigaeru is pointless cause of Umiiruka.
 
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