Generation Shift Problem

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You can target a Limited monster with "Generation Shift", but after destroying the monster you don't search or shuffle your Deck.

I find this inconsistent with everything else about this game. How is it that we know we have to search our own Decks, have our opponent verify that there are no more copies of said card in the Deck for an effect like Nobleman of Extermination (and I hate explaining that to people who refuse to believe it) and we can destroy and remove from play say a Ring of Destruction, but that the opponent would still have to let you verify they only had 1 copy in their Deck? Yet, this says if you target a Limited monster you do not search or shuffle your Deck?
 
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Even though it MAY be a waste of time. It is a game mechanic. The game does not know if you have more than 1 copy of the card in your Deck or not. Whenever I would tell people to do it, they will get mad and call me "You noob. Stop lying." I hope someone addresses this soon.
 
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According to the ruling if you have your opponent's monster (Breaker the Magical Warrior?) under your control (Snatch Steal?) you will NOT have to search your deck to remove your copy of Breaker the Magical Warrior. ;)

Which should show that the ruling is incorrect"¦
 
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You should check your Deck anyway. The Restriction List and Game Mechanics are completely separate things. I have no idea why this ruling was ever made. It's certainly feasible that you would have your opponent's monster face-down and targetted by such cards. Therefore the card shouldn't be negated by so-called "common sense". It should run through its effect as any other card would.
 
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My guess is becuase it's your effect and your deck. The opponent doesn't need to verify that you have no more of the selected monster because it doesn't affect his deck, too, like "Nobleman of Extermination" and "Nobleman of Crossout" do.

That's just my take on it, though...
 
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Kyhotae said:
My guess is becuase it's your effect and your deck. The opponent doesn't need to verify that you have no more of the selected monster because it doesn't affect his deck, too, like "Nobleman of Extermination" and "Nobleman of Crossout" do.

That's just my take on it, though...
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That seems like the right conclusion.

The problem is that these types of searches have traditionally been oblivious to the list restrictions, so the ruling still remains inconsistant.

The shuffle after the search would affect the game, even if it is unneccessary.

It seems the real issue is the lack of a "fail to find" rule in YGO.
 
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