Goldd is sent to graveyard by opponents Last Turn with Jowgen on the field. Opponent chose Jowgen as his/her monster. How does Goldds effect work? Is Goldd summoned or not? I can see Jowgn being destroyed but does Goldd make it to the field or does it matter as can The "Goldd" owner then special summon any monster and win by Last Turn effect? They would have the only monster on the field and thus win.
Goldd vs. Jowgen/Last Turn
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Goldd requires a discard for his effects to activate. Last Turn simply "sends" cards to the Graveyard. This is similar to The Creator and Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End. Goldd cannot be Special Summoned when sent to the Graveyard by Last Turn, The Creator, or Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End.
And by extention of that fact, he cannot destroy anything on the field, either.
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malawifan said:
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If this card is discarded from the hand to the Graveyard by a card effect, Special Summon this card to your side of the field. If this card is discarded from the hand to the Graveyard by your opponent's card effect, you can select up to 2 cards on your opponent's side of the field and destroy them.
Wouldn't the terminology of "send" and "discard" be interchangeable in this application. After all, you are still "discarding" your hand to the graveyard.
If the effect of Last Turn requires ALL cards in the opponents hand and field be sent to the graveyard, how does the effect of Goldd not destroy Jowgen?
No, the terms are NOT interchangeable at will. If a card effect states it needs to be 'discarded', then it will ONLY activate when it is discarded. If a card effect states it needs to be 'sent', then it will activate when it is destroyed, discarded, or sent, because 'send' is the generic term, whereas 'discard' is a specific way to send.
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.
Next time I will be more thorough. The ruling for this is under "Dark World Monsters" which states "They will not activate if sent to the graveyard by a card effect like "Last Turn" or "Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End".
The "THEY" refers to the Beige, Broww, Silva, and Goldd monsters.
The "THEY" refers to the Beige, Broww, Silva, and Goldd monsters.
It's important to rmember that there are many ways to "send" a card to the Graveyard. You can discard it, destroy it, tribute it or even send it. "Send", as Skey puts it, is a generic term. But the othr three are specific ways to "send" a monster or card to the Graveyard. Dark Worlders only trigger of the specific function of "discarding" and not off any of the others or off of the generic action. (Add to that it must be an effect discard and not a cost discard)HorusMaster said:
Yes. However, there was one effect that, had Goldd been discarded properly, would have still activated in spite of Jowgan. The Special Summon was merely one half of that effect.