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Hamon, Rare Value vs. Macro/D.Fissure
- Thread starter Dasher
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Short Answers:
Hamon + Macro = No
Hamon + D.Fis = Yes
Rare Value + Macro = No, technically
Rare Value + D.Fis = Yes
Long Answers:
"Macro Cosmos", "Dimensional Fissure", and "Banisher of the Light/Radiance" only prevent cards from being activated if it's a cost to send the card to the Graveyard.
"Hamon, Lord of Striking Thunder"'s summon effect requires you to send the cards to the Graveyard as a cost. "Macro Cosmos" will stop it (since the Crystal Beasts would be removed from play).
"Dimensional Fissure" doesn't remove from play the crystalised, "Crystal Beast"s, since they are sent to the Graveyard as Magic cards. The "Crystal Beast"s would be sent to the Graveyard as normal, so "Dimensional Fissure" wouldn't stop "Hamon".
"Rare Value" doesn't send the card to the Graveyard as a cost, so "Macro Cosmos" wouldn't stop it from being activated. However, a Japanese ruling is that since the "Crystal Beast" would be removed from play, so you wouldn't draw two cards.
Again, "Dimensional Fissure" would have no effect, since the "Crystal Beast" is sent to the Graveyard.
Also, that last sentence didn't end in a question mark. D:<
Hamon + Macro = No
Hamon + D.Fis = Yes
Rare Value + Macro = No, technically
Rare Value + D.Fis = Yes
Long Answers:
"Macro Cosmos", "Dimensional Fissure", and "Banisher of the Light/Radiance" only prevent cards from being activated if it's a cost to send the card to the Graveyard.
"Hamon, Lord of Striking Thunder"'s summon effect requires you to send the cards to the Graveyard as a cost. "Macro Cosmos" will stop it (since the Crystal Beasts would be removed from play).
"Dimensional Fissure" doesn't remove from play the crystalised, "Crystal Beast"s, since they are sent to the Graveyard as Magic cards. The "Crystal Beast"s would be sent to the Graveyard as normal, so "Dimensional Fissure" wouldn't stop "Hamon".
"Rare Value" doesn't send the card to the Graveyard as a cost, so "Macro Cosmos" wouldn't stop it from being activated. However, a Japanese ruling is that since the "Crystal Beast" would be removed from play, so you wouldn't draw two cards.
Again, "Dimensional Fissure" would have no effect, since the "Crystal Beast" is sent to the Graveyard.
Also, that last sentence didn't end in a question mark. D:<
It's not a Japanese ruling....However, a Japanese ruling is that since the "Crystal Beast" would be removed from play, so you wouldn't draw two cards.
UDE FAQ said:If "Macro Cosmos" or "Banisher of the Raidance" is on the field, you can still activate "Rare Value", but since the "Crystal Beast" card is not sent to the Graveyard you do NOT draw 2 cards.
But we're playing the TCG. It doesn't make sense to refer to the OCG, even if the two games happen to be similar at whatever you're comparing. There are still some differences between the two games, and until they're identical, you should not even be thinking about the OCG to make judgements in the TCG (regardless of how similar they may already be).