Horus Combustion III [Now 10.2005 Compliant]

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djp952

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Even stranger than it's first 2 incarnations (Horus Combustion II), but it's still a goal of mine to make this work the way I want it to.

Believe it or not, this deck is not far off finally. Yeah, it looks kinda funky and consists mainly of multiples of the same card over and over. Ojama Trio is gone and Lava Golem is in. How ironic :D

One immediate thing you'll all point out and e-smack me for is undoubtedly the 3x Spiritual Fire Art - Kurenai listed here. Like Gaia Soul the Combustible Collective, this card has WAY more usefulness than you might see on the surface. It's good for a lot of things here, not to mention a nice little punishment for trying to destroy my Horus LV8 :D

It's close. It really is. Have at it, but please refrain from sweeping changes. I'm hoping for that final tweak or two I haven't thought of. It's never going to win any tournaments anyway, but that's never been the point behind it :D

Deck Name: Horus Combustion III
Count: 42

Monsters: 18
Tribute:
Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV6
Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV6
Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8
Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8
Lava Golem

Non-Tribute:
Gaia Soul the Combustible Collective
Gaia Soul the Combustible Collective
Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV4
Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV4
Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV4
Raging Flame Sprite
Raging Flame Sprite
Sangan
Solar Flare Dragon
Solar Flare Dragon
Solar Flare Dragon
Spirit Reaper
Spirit Reaper

Spells:16
Brain Control
Creature Swap
Creature Swap
Heavy Storm
Last Will
Last Will
Level Up!
Level Up!
Level Up!
Messenger of Peace
Messenger of Peace
Messenger of Peace
My Body as a Shield
Mystical Space Typhoon
Nobleman of Crossout
Premature Burial

Traps:8
Call of the Haunted
Good Goblin Housekeeping
Good Goblin Housekeeping
Nightmare Wheel
Nightmare Wheel
Spiritual Fire Art - Kurenai
Spiritual Fire Art - Kurenai
Spiritual Fire Art - Kurenai

edit: swapped Pot of Greed out for My Body as a Shield to be 10/1/2005 compliant.
 
Ooooh, tasty indeed! I nice hybrid between Horus and the fire monsters. This is VERY intriguing indeed! Gaia is one bad mamma jamma, that's for sure. What's really sick is how you can have Horus LV6 running amok while MoP is out. Very fiendish 8^D.

A couple small suggestions. I'm more prone towards Snatch Steal over Brain Control. I can see how a quick Brain Jack would work if you're grabbing the Golem back for the Fire Art, but if you want to grab one of their more potentn monsters for a few turns, Snatch allows this. Similarly, if you're just doing a quick grab and trib/nuke, Snatch saves you 800 LP for the doing.

I'm a little wary about spell/trap removal here. I've had a good number of themed decks that get shut down due to a MoP or a GBind or some other spell/trap I could have easily removed. Good Goblin Housekeeping isn't the best drawing card in my book (unless you're chaining Emergency Provisions to it), so maybe swap those out for a Magic Jammer/Seven Tools, or a Raigeki Break/Dust Tornado or something along those lines?

Other than that. I think its set. I was thinking originally may be one of the Horus Lv4s could have gone by the wayside, but there really isn't a searcher out there for LV4, which is kind of a bummer.

Keep up the great work! Hope this helps.
 
Dillie-O said:
Ooooh, tasty indeed! I nice hybrid between Horus and the fire monsters. This is VERY intriguing indeed! Gaia is one bad mamma jamma, that's for sure. What's really sick is how you can have Horus LV6 running amok while MoP is out. Very fiendish 8^D.
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:D We'll see how fiendish it is when it goes up against your fiends, won't we? I have a feeling I'm messing around with cards I'm just not skilled enough to use here. Playtesting against the lowly WATER structure was ... unpleasant ... at times.

Dillie-O said:
A couple small suggestions. I'm more prone towards Snatch Steal over Brain Control. I can see how a quick Brain Jack would work if you're grabbing the Golem back for the Fire Art, but if you want to grab one of their more potentn monsters for a few turns, Snatch allows this. Similarly, if you're just doing a quick grab and trib/nuke, Snatch saves you 800 LP for the doing.
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I've noticed in past incarnations that Snatch tends to Backfire (no pun intended) more often than not here. First off, chances are good I'll keep the monster (can't help myself usually), and that +1000LP can hurt since I'm not pure burn/stall here. Brain Control isn't prone to problems with Dust Tornado or Mystical Space Typhoon like Snatch Steal is either. But you're quite right on the intention. A common pattern I started using in testing was to Creature Swap a Gaia Soul over, brain it back and nuke it with Spiritual Fire Art - Kurenai for a quick 2200, and often the game.

Dillie-O said:
I'm a little wary about spell/trap removal here. I've had a good number of themed decks that get shut down due to a MoP or a GBind or some other spell/trap I could have easily removed.
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Me too, although I can't think of many continuous cards that are commonly run that would actually hurt me here. Most of them would be of benefit if the opponent played them. This deck wouldn't stand up to a pure burn anyway :D 3 Kurenais *is* a bit heavy ... I suppose a Dust Tornado wouldn't hurt in place of one of them.

Dillie-O said:
Good Goblin Housekeeping isn't the best drawing card in my book (unless you're chaining Emergency Provisions to it), so maybe swap those out for a Magic Jammer/Seven Tools, or a Raigeki Break/Dust Tornado or something along those lines?
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Aha! Gotcha! I was hoping somebody would bring that up. See, Good Goblin Housekeeping, a VERY recent addition, has that interesting little side-effect that I think most people would balk at:

Good Goblin Housekeeping
Normal Trap

Draw a number of cards from your Deck equal to the number of "Good Goblin Housekeeping" cards in your Graveyard +1, select 1 card from your hand, and return it to the bottom of your Deck.​

One major problem with this deck in the past, and really any deck that contains too many high-level monsters (especially 2 nomis) is the clogging of the hand. The second part of Good Goblin Housekeeping's effect is what I was interested in. It allows me to take a stagnant Horus LV6/LV8 and put it at the BOTTOM of the deck, well out of the way of the draw, and still within reach of Level Up!. There's not a lot of shuffling going on here either, at least not from my own effects that is. If I can get rid of a useless LV8 and make sure I'm not going to just draw it again (like Reload), that's a big plus. It's no Pot of Greed, but it seems to fit pretty nicely.

Dillie-O said:
Other than that. I think its set. I was thinking originally may be one of the Horus Lv4s could have gone by the wayside, but there really isn't a searcher out there for LV4, which is kind of a bummer.
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LV4 is definately lame. The former pair of Ojama Trios were mostly there to help him out and try to work this without Level Up!. Wasn't happening. I've debated over a third Gaia Soul, since that card is really a key player here, but he's definately not sticking around long! There's also good old Charcoal Inpachi with his 2100DEF, but that just delays the inevitable. *sigh* If only we had Witch of the Black Forest instead of Sangan .... what would you think about using one of the Special Summon FIRE monsters, like Spirit of Flames or Inferno instead of 1 of these guys?

Thanks for all the suggestions man! I know it looks more like I'm arguing over them, but I'm not really. More of a "here's why I did that", so you can explain how flawed my logic is :D I do value your input and take it very seriously. At least you don't think it's a total loss, right?
 
Aww man, and here I thought we were having our first beef (other than the fact that VB.net _IS_ better than C++ 8^D).

Seriously though, that GGH is a smart move indeed. I like that a lot. That makes a lot more sense and I say ROLL WITH IT! That will help you out for sure!

I like the idea of Inferno over Spirit of the Flames. A little more defense, a little extra nastiness if they have some goats or jars helpless out there, and makes a nice tribute for the Level 6.

Word! Now I just gotta find some time when we're both online at the same time 8^D
 
chaosruler said:
You defend Good Goblin Housekeeping, yet you forget Emergency Provisions? It's easiest drawing engine? For shame, Mike. :p

-chaosruler
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LOL. OK, I needed to read the rulings for Emergency Provisions. I wasn't aware of the tricky little combo it has with Good Goblin Housekeeping. That's pretty sweet. I need to spend less time processing the rulings and read them once in a while :D

But what to take out? I could lose the Nobleman, I suppose. I could also lose that third Spiritual Fire Art - Kurenai, or even the Raging Flame Sprites. Nightmare Wheel just has to stay ... it just has to!
 
Judicator said:
Even though the combo is pretty wicked, to get it to resolve consitently is difficult.
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I've found that as well in testing a couple Emergency Provisions like folks suggested. So far the Good Goblin Housekeepings have been doing their job quite nicely without it, but I'm still trying to work them in.

On a side note, the deck as posted has been ... strangely successful. I haven't had the honor of running into any Des Wombats yet, though. I think it more catches people off guard than anything else.

But I'm liking it thus far! Fun deck ... perhaps the most interesting one I've ever come up with on my own, too.
 
Word! I love the memorandum! And yes, I think that's going to be the next gen wireless standard 10.2005 8^D

I don't know I think the Emergency Provisions still fits well, you could chain it to your Last Will's and Level Ups! To get a little extra power boost when needed.

It will be interesting, in general, to see what people will fill their empty pot with 8^D
 
Dillie-O said:
Word! I love the memorandum! And yes, I think that's going to be the next gen wireless standard 10.2005 8^D

I don't know I think the Emergency Provisions still fits well, you could chain it to your Last Will's and Level Ups! To get a little extra power boost when needed.

It will be interesting, in general, to see what people will fill their empty pot with 8^D
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That's ... memoriam, not memorandum :D Actually, I don't think memoriam is even a real word, but people use it all the time. The English Language is a funny creature!

I'll tell ya what .. next time we duke it out, I'll use Emergency Provisions and see how/if it works out. Hand Control is going to be slightly more difficult now, and I think I'd rather save a Horus than gain 1000LP. Depends on how the loss of Pot changes the dynamic, I suppose.
 
I must say, your deck looks awesome. I'm tempted to netdeck it, but I wont cause I'm cool or something like that. Anyways, maybe consider UFO Turtle to fetch Solar Flare Dragon and Raging Flame Sprite. I'm unsure of what to take out for them however. I'd say add a Royal Decree or two, but that could hurt Spiritual Fire Art - Kurenai. However, really consider playing Emergency Provisions since you have the Good Goblin Housekeepings. Consider dropping the My Body as a Shield and a Messenger of Peace for two Provisions. The only other thing I can think of is to drop Brain Control in favor of Snatch Steal. Again, the deck looks freakin' awesome, good luck with it here in the future.
 
chaosruler said:
Mike,
I felt a final farewell to Pot was in order, hence my avatar. >_< Great minds think alike, eh?

-chaosruler
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I think the entire forum should switch to Pot of Greed for their avatar for a week :D It was a good friend to all of us ... *tears* (But I'm thrilled it's gone -- this is gonna be great for the game)

Oskar ... netdeck away my friend. I have no problem with that, and would love to see how it would morph into your own style! Granted, Horus should see a HUGE rise in popularity now, but I still think this is a fairly unique take on the beastie.

As always, the comments are fantastic, and taken to heart. I've added some Turtles to the 'back of the deck box' and plan on testing them ASAP!!! Now that what, 10 people have hit me with Emergency Provisions I have no choice ... it must be done. Probably in Horus IV when this one falls to page 5. I'm not big on editing already-posted decks, with the loss of Pot of Greed today being a stellar exception to that rule (since I only needed to change 1 card)
 
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