Inferno Reckless Summon in Gravekeeper Deck

[Wizit]

Hello

I am running a Gravekeeper Deck and was thinking that 'Inferno Reckless Summon' (IRS) would be a clever recursion card to add.

My questions are these:

1. IRS can only be activated when a 1500 or less ATK monster is special summoned to my side of the field. Now, if I have Necrovalley on the field and special summon (for eg) a Gravekeeper's Assailant, is its ATK 1500 or 2000 and hence can I activate 'Inferno Reckless Summon' in response to get its effect?

2. If I or my opponent cannot retrieve cards from the Graveyard due to the effect of Necrovally, do we just get as many cards as we can from the hand and deck and forget about the graveyard or does Necrovally mean I cannot activate IRS at all?

3. If my opponent has only monster tokens on his side of the field and I activate IRS, I gather that my opponent can do nothing because he cannot get more tokens from anywhere, but I can still use the effect of IRS and summon my own monsters?

4. If I activate IRS and me or my opponent does not have enough monster spaces to summon all of the same monster cards to the field, do we just get as many as we can? The effect on IRS is not optional - it does not say 'can'

Thanks
Wizit

 

[Tiso]

Hello

I am running a Gravekeeper Deck and was thinking that 'Inferno Reckless Summon' (IRS) would be a clever recursion card to add.

My questions are these:

1. IRS can only be activated when a 1500 or less ATK monster is special summoned to my side of the field. Now, if I have Necrovalley on the field and special summon (for eg) a Gravekeeper's Assailant, is its ATK 1500 or 2000 and hence can I activate 'Inferno Reckless Summon' in response to get its effect?

2. If I or my opponent cannot retrieve cards from the Graveyard due to the effect of Necrovally, do we just get as many cards as we can from the hand and deck and forget about the graveyard or does Necrovally mean I cannot activate IRS at all?

3. If my opponent has only monster tokens on his side of the field and I activate IRS, I gather that my opponent can do nothing because he cannot get more tokens from anywhere, but I can still use the effect of IRS and summon my own monsters?

4. If I activate IRS and me or my opponent does not have enough monster spaces to summon all of the same monster cards to the field, do we just get as many as we can? The effect on IRS is not optional - it does not say 'can'

Thanks
Wizit

1. I would assume if no one could from the Graveyard it would just be skipped and you summon whatever you can.

2. I would assume the same for no. 1. I mean look at it this way. If your opponent only has 1 monster on his field and that is the only monster they put in their Deck, do you think they you are able to still activate IRS? Yes you can. He would just out of luck in that scenario.

3. Yes.

4. Uh.......... that is tricky. I am not going to touch it yet only because there are no rulings or anything. If I had to take a stab at it I would just say summon as many as you could, the rest just die.

 

[Digital Jedi]

1. IRS can only be activated when a 1500 or less ATK monster is special summoned to my side of the field. Now, if I have Necrovalley on the field and special summon (for eg) a Gravekeeper's Assailant, is its ATK 1500 or 2000 and hence can I activate 'Inferno Reckless Summon' in response to get its effect?

Any continuous modifiers immediatly apply. His ATK would be 2000 as soon as he hits the field. You would not be able to activate Inferno Reckless Summon in response.

2. If I or my opponent cannot retrieve cards from the Graveyard due to the effect of Necrovally, do we just get as many cards as we can from the hand and deck and forget about the graveyard or does Necrovally mean I cannot activate IRS at all?

As I understand it, we don't know yet. Rulings are conflicting and we've not received anything official to say one way or the other.

3. If my opponent has only monster tokens on his side of the field and I activate IRS, I gather that my opponent can do nothing because he cannot get more tokens from anywhere, but I can still use the effect of IRS and summon my own monsters?

Works on the same principle as if all he he had was a Limited Monster on his side of the field. His ability to summon monsters is not an activation requirement.

4. If I activate IRS and me or my opponent does not have enough monster spaces to summon all of the same monster cards to the field, do we just get as many as we can? The effect on IRS is not optional - it does not say 'can'

I'd be inclined to say it requires you to have the appropriate spaces at activation, but not your opponent. It also doesn't say something akin to "up to" in the summon count. It says all copies. For you, I'd say you had to have spaces at activation. Fro your opponent I'd say a lack of spaces means some get burned.

 

[masterwoo0]

4. If I activate IRS and me or my opponent does not have enough monster spaces to summon all of the same monster cards to the field, do we just get as many as we can? The effect on IRS is not optional - it does not say 'can'

Thanks
Wizit

Why does it need to say how many to summon? Even though its just an effect, the makers of the game KNOW that there are cards that cannot be carried as more than 1 or 2 in the game.

If it said, "Summon 3 monsters", and you only have a Special Summoned "Cyber Jar", can you activate the effect of IRS? No. You cannot attempt to summon 3 Cyber Jar's because you cannot activate an effect YOU cannot resolve (even if you had your opponents Cyber Jar by Exchange or Amazoness Chain Master), nevermind your opponent.

It says "Summon All Monsters" just like Cyber Jar says "Summon All Level 4 and below", but what happens when you draw a Spirit Monster as one of the Level 4 and below? Since it can't be Special Summoned, what happens? The effect says Summon ALL OF THEM. It doesnt say, "if you can".

 

[HorusMaster]

I may be wrong but since Inferno Reckless Summon doesn't just target cards in the graveyard but your hand and deck as well, doesn't the effect of Necrovalley disappear and allow you to special summon cards from your graveyard for IRS effect?

As such, I believe you can summon from the graveyard for IRS's effect even though Necrovalley is on the field.

 

[masterwoo0]

I may be wrong but since Inferno Reckless Summon doesn't just target cards in the graveyard but your hand and deck as well, doesn't the effect of Necrovalley disappear and allow you to special summon cards from your graveyard for IRS effect?

As such, I believe you can summon from the graveyard for IRS's effect even though Necrovalley is on the field.

Inferno Reckless Summon doesnt target at all.

 

[HorusMaster]

Inferno Reckless Summon doesnt target at all.

Okay, okay...wrong terminology used as Reckless doesn't target but since it does not "target", then the effect of Reckless will allow you to special summon cards from your graveyard despite Necrovalley being face up on the field, correct?

 

[Kyhotae]

That's the rub. Some say that ANY effect that affects the Graveyard is negated by "Necrovalley" and the wording of "Necrovalley" seems to indicate that.

Personally, I agree with what you've said, but there has not been an official ruling.

Woo, you can't activate a card that will do nothing. If you activate "Inferno Reckless Summon" in response to Special Summoned "Cyber Jar", you would check your deck, hand a Graveyard for any extra "Cyber Jar"s and then shuffle your deck. The opponent would also select one of his monsters and check his hand, deck and Graveyard for the rest of THOSE and then he shuffles HIS deck. Something happens, so it's not an "illegal activation" because the game doesn't know that there are limited cards. That's an outside restriction placed on the game.