jinzo/relinquished/thousand eyes

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cuzwbd

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we are trying to figure out what happens to jinzo's effect when he is face up and sucked up by thousand eyes or relinquished... he is still face up on the field...would he still negate trap effects? all we can find is that relinquished / thousand eyes won't take on the effect of the equipped monster...not wheather or not the monsters' effect is negated while equipped...
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masterwoo0 said:
At that point, Jinzo only adds to Relinquished or Thousand-Eyes Restrict's attack/defense, and would be destroyed in place of either in battle with a higher attack monster.

He no longer has an effect once absorbed (or equipped, ie, Sword Hunter) to another monster.
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Knowing that the monster that Relinquish/Thousand Eyes "sucks" up becomes an equip card and that the ATK/DEF is absorbed- what happens if the card that is "sucked" up is a monster such as Spell Canceller, Silent Swordsman LV5 or Horus LV6 ? Would these monsters negate the equip and destroy themselves?
 
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HorusMaster said:
Knowing that the monster that Relinquish/Thousand Eyes "sucks" up becomes an equip card and that the ATK/DEF is absorbed- what happens if the card that is "sucked" up is a monster such as Spell Canceller, Silent Swordsman LV5 or Horus LV6 ? Would these monsters negate the equip and destroy themselves?
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1. The ATK/DEF increase comes from within Relinquished/TER, NOT from the card equipped to him, so if the equip is negated TER/Rel still keeps the ATK/DEF.

2. Rel/TER are NOT spell cards, so they can "suck up" Silent Swordsman, Spell Canceller and Horus LV6.


NOTE: TER/Rel can NOT "suck up" cards like Horus LV4, Mataza the Zapper and Blindly Loyal Goblin.
 
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HorusMaster said:
I guess that includes card where the text states "control of this card cannot change" and such?
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True. You cannot even select the card as a target because even though it would become an equip card, it would still change control, which you cannot do, AS LONG AS THEY ARE FACE-UP!! Big difference.
 
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never did explain WHY Jinzo's effect is negated...still face up ... just in spell/trap zone.... - dont see it in ruling for either ter or rel..... does not say negates (continuous) effect of monster is it in game mech some where?
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Monster Effects cannot remain active unless they are Monster Cards. Transforming them into Equips takes away any effect they may have had. The only exception are cards that have special effects when transformed into Equips, like Union Monsters for example. But this is a case where the effect specifically alters the default game mechanic. The default mechanic being "monsters have no effects as equip Cards."
 
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