Mirage/Graceful+ Dark World

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PerfectZelgadis

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Alright, this is probably stupid questions, but here's the sit. If a Dark world creature is discarded by Mirage of Nightmare will you get the effect. Also would it work my Graceful. I think it would work off of Mirage, but not Graceful. Am I correct?
 
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Alright, this is probably stupid questions, but here's the sit. If a Dark world creature is discarded by Mirage of Nightmare will you get the effect. Also would it work my Graceful. I think it would work off of Mirage, but not Graceful. Am I correct?
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I would think it would work for both since the discards are card effects and not costs.**Looks around for thin ice**

Edit: Doh! Curse you woltarr and your superior typing skills.
 
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woltarr said:
it will work on both cards

any circustance EXCEPT costs that makes a dark world creature hits the grave activate its special sumon effct

so it will work with

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Morphing Jar

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Card Destruction

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Dark Deal


woltarr
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Magical Merchant never adds monsters to hand. Cards are only "picked up" until you get a Spell or Trap. Monsters are "Sent" not "Discarded" to the Graveyard.
 
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So if I'm reading this right, dark world monsters will activate if they get discarded via Painful Choice ?? since the cards not selected by your opponent get discarded to the boneyard

Select 5 cards from your Deck and show them to your opponent. Your opponent selects 1 card among them. Add that card to your hand and discard the remaining cards to the Graveyard.
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if so, gives me more reason to play dark world in a traditional format
 
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So to clarify, Dark Worl Monsters must be "discarded", not "sent", to Graveyard to activate their effects and they must be in the hand at the time that happens. Cards that are "picked up" are not considered to be in the hand. Its all about the wording.
 
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Digital Jedi said:
So to clarify, Dark Worl Monsters must be "discarded", not "sent", to Graveyard to activate their effects and they must be in the hand at the time that happens. Cards that are "picked up" are not considered to be in the hand. Its all about the wording.
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I love Konami's logic on discard and sent. It is like saying that the two different ways you pronounce POTATO makes it two different things. I know certain effects still activate from Painful Choice when they go to the Graveyard, just not sure of which ones at the moment. Mirage of Nightmare works since it is discard and we can safely kiss that forever goodbye.
 
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Well I wouldn't say it's too odd of a thing. I know a lot of card games have differing terms for diferent ways a card goes where it oges. VS for example can have a card go to the discard pile by KOing it, but some effects might "place" it in the KOd pile which is not the same as KOing. Grnated, Konami could have made the distinction slicker, but its not unheard of in TCGs.
 
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Tiso said:
I love Konami's logic on discard and sent. It is like saying that the two different ways you pronounce POTATO makes it two different things. I know certain effects still activate from Painful Choice when they go to the Graveyard, just not sure of which ones at the moment. Mirage of Nightmare works since it is discard and we can safely kiss that forever goodbye.
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Painful Choice works with those that don't require a specific source of discard.
 
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I love Konami's logic on discard and sent. It is like saying that the two different ways you pronounce POTATO makes it two different things. I know certain effects still activate from Painful Choice when they go to the Graveyard, just not sure of which ones at the moment. Mirage of Nightmare works since it is discard and we can safely kiss that forever goodbye.
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Don't you mean POTATOE?:silly_jed Sorry to drag old politics into this....
 
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