Monster effects against Traphole.

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This is a move that was pulled , while we where gaming, which I need to know the ruling on please.

Player 1 - Played Breaker the Magical Warrior.
Player 2 - Flipped Bottomless Traphole.

Does the effect of Breaker the Magical Warrior take effect as part of a chain?

Could Player 1, before removing Breaker the Magical Warrior from play, use the token on it to destroy another face down spell or trap card on Player 2's field?.

If he could do this, would this work the same for Frost Monach etc?

Please let us know.

Thanks.
 
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Its a little different for each and here's the breakdown.

Breaker is summoned. His Spell Counter effect is a mandatory effect, which starts a chain. The opponent now has the right to add a link to the chain, and we're still responding to the situation of a monster being summoned, so BTH is a legal activation.

After that, we resolve in reverse, so BTH will remove Breaker before it even gets a chance to gain a spell counter.

Mobius is summoned. At that point, since its an optional effect, the turn player has the right to activate it or not. They choose to do so, targeting two spell/trap cards on the field. Since we're building a chain and responding to the summon, we can chain Bottomless Trap Hole to the effect. It doesn't matter if it was targetted or not, it is still free to be activated. We then resolve in reverse order. BTH removes Mobius from play. However, Mobius' effect doesn't require itself to remain on the field, so its effect, since its activation was never negated, still resolves and destroys to two spell/trap cards targeted. If one of them was your BTH, it destroys that card (now face up and spent) and the other one.

That's how it all works. Hopefully it makes sense. They are great examples to show multiple facets of the game mechanics in action.
 
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