Ojamuscle vs. Ojama Tokens

Sort by date Sort by votes
Dillie-O said:
That's what I would have ruled as well. Tokens are for all intents and purposes monster cards with a few limitations put on to them.
Click to expand...
Oxymoron alert!

How about:

Tokens are, for most intents and purposes, monster cards.

Although, to be honest, I've never really understood what the limitations on tokens are, besides what it is stated on the card that created them. Help?

-pssvr
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Tokens can't go back to the deck or to the hand. So when something like Morphing Jar #2 is flipped, and say you have 3 Ojama Tokens on your side of the field, you won't get to special summon any because they never went back to the deck. Similary, they don't qualify for effects like Last Will, because the card never hit the graveyard, it simply ceases to exist after it is destroyed.

Tokens can't be turned face down. This doesn't mean that Book of Moon or Tsukuyomi will kill them, it means that Book of Moon and Tsukuyomi can't target them.

Those are the two major things I can think of off the top of my head, but a lot of questions that people ask about tokens are:

Can they be equipped? - Yes
Can they be sucked up by Relinquished? - Yes
Do DNA Surgeried Tokens boost Goblin King? - Yes

Things like that...Hope this helps.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Hmm, close. The "as long as they remain face up" on the field seems like they have the potential of going face down when just straight up can't. If you're looking for a 1 sentence summary of a Token, it might need a smidge more tweaking.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Wohooo! My server finaly updated the DNS or whatchamwhosits!
woot.gif
woot.gif
woot.gif
woot.gif
danceparty.gif
woot.gif
woot.gif
woot.gif
woot.gif


Ah, yes. Tokens are treated as Normal Monster Cards for as long as they are on the field.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Ahem...

Tokens are, for all intents and purposes, treated as normal monsters as long as they remain face up on the field, with the one and only exception that they cannot be turned face down. If a token leaves the field, it is destroyed (even if returned to the owners hand) and becomes non-existent.

I am NOT doing that again. If you want it any more perfect, someone else type it.

-pssvr
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Fine!..you want perfect!
Some cards will tell you to Special Summon Monster Tokens. A Token is a representation of a monster card. You should use a coin or similar marker that can be placed in 2 different positions for Attack or Defense Position. (Heads and Tails on a coin).

Monster Tokens are placed in Monster Card Zones, and are treated as Monsters and Cards for all effects. If destroyed, Tokens are simply taken off the field. They are not removed from play. If a card effect returns a Token to the hand, to the Deck, or would remove a Token from play, it is just taken off the field instead.

A Monster Token is always face-up, and cannot be turned face-down, even by a card effect.
Click to expand...
I don't think it get's more 'perfect' than that!..:p
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Except that it's contradictory. Tokens are NOT treated as monsters for all effects. They CANNOT be turned face down, and so cannot even be the TARGET of such effects as tsuki and book.

Perhaps our monkey needs a little time in solitary confinement. Bad monkey, bad!

-pssvr
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
No. I know perfectly well where that quote came from. I can show you were that same book explains fusions, and you tell me it's perfect.

Monkey needs to spend some time with girl-monkey so he can be less stressed o_0

-pssvr

PS You know I was kidding on that last sentence, right?
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Yes it will work. It worked in a future GX episode where Chazz uses Ojamuscle exactly in that situation in order to win. Konami basically wants Ojamas to be playable, which they will be come next support cards released.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
pssvr said:
Ahem...

Tokens are, for all intents and purposes, treated as normal monsters as long as they remain face up on the field, with the one and only exception that they cannot be turned face down. If a token leaves the field, it is destroyed (even if returned to the owners hand) and becomes non-existent.

I am NOT doing that again. If you want it any more perfect, someone else type it.

-pssvr
Click to expand...
"For as long as they remain face-up on the field" perhaps isn't the best way to describe them. There not going to be on the field any other way but face-up. Also, they are not just treated as Normal Monsters, they are Treated as Normal Monster Cards. That's often forgotten, and why the card can be targetd by effects that merely target cards in general, like Raigeki Break.

The description posted by Skey is not contradictory. It just left one detail out. There's a difference between "contradictory" and "not all inclusive".
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
I'm afraid we're not quite perfect yet. Tokens aren't necessarily destroyed if they leave the field....and this is important for Ojama tokens. If, for instance, Fiber Jar is flipped face up and the Ojama tokens leave the field they are not destroyed so the controler does not take the effect damage.

This was one of the clarifications from Kevin's last pow-wow with his Japanese counterparts.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Wait a minute... HUH??!?!?

I always thought that any time a token left the field, it was destroyed by a game mechanic. Are you saying it just ceases to exist?

Blech. I stand (sit) corrected. Poo.

-pssvr
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top