Time Out Situation - When does a turn end and when does the next one start?
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Hi,
we had a complicated situation at a tournament (Yu-Gi-Oh).
Player A vs. Player B. Player A leads 1-0 in games.
Player A begins, activates "Foolish Burial" to get "Treeborn Frog" into the graveyard and ends his turn.
Now, time is called before Player B draws his card in his Draw Phase.
What should you do as a (Head) Judge in this situation?
I would have decided that Player B's turn is now the first turn for the End-of-Match-Procedure since the last turn has already been finished.
But I called the Head Judge (I was the second Judge at that tournament). She decided that Player A's turn was still in progress and therefore the first turn of the End-of-Match-Procedure.
So my question is: When does a turn really end and when does the next one start?
Well, it's clear that a turn ends after the End Phase has been finished, i.e. when both players have passed their priorities. But in this case, there was no card on the field, so that passing priority happens without communication.
My intention to rule it as I stated above, is that it would be possible to "cheat" (I know this is not the right word in this case, but I hope you know what I want to say by it.) for Player B. Player B can wait for some seconds to let the last seconds in the round pass before drawing and "decide" which turn is the first of End-of-Match-Procedure. On the other side, he certainly has the right to think about passing priority, but in such a situation.... I don't know what the right thing is here.
It can be very important to know when a turn ends and when the next one starts and what you should do when something like the situation described above happens.
I'm very interested in your opinions.
Yours,
magic_hero
http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/community/forums/thread/987247.aspx
from UDE's Player Management Forums
Hi,
we had a complicated situation at a tournament (Yu-Gi-Oh).
Player A vs. Player B. Player A leads 1-0 in games.
Player A begins, activates "Foolish Burial" to get "Treeborn Frog" into the graveyard and ends his turn.
Now, time is called before Player B draws his card in his Draw Phase.
What should you do as a (Head) Judge in this situation?
I would have decided that Player B's turn is now the first turn for the End-of-Match-Procedure since the last turn has already been finished.
But I called the Head Judge (I was the second Judge at that tournament). She decided that Player A's turn was still in progress and therefore the first turn of the End-of-Match-Procedure.
So my question is: When does a turn really end and when does the next one start?
Well, it's clear that a turn ends after the End Phase has been finished, i.e. when both players have passed their priorities. But in this case, there was no card on the field, so that passing priority happens without communication.
My intention to rule it as I stated above, is that it would be possible to "cheat" (I know this is not the right word in this case, but I hope you know what I want to say by it.) for Player B. Player B can wait for some seconds to let the last seconds in the round pass before drawing and "decide" which turn is the first of End-of-Match-Procedure. On the other side, he certainly has the right to think about passing priority, but in such a situation.... I don't know what the right thing is here.
It can be very important to know when a turn ends and when the next one starts and what you should do when something like the situation described above happens.
I'm very interested in your opinions.
Yours,
magic_hero
http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/community/forums/thread/987247.aspx