Quick Question about Inferno Reckless Summoning

[maniac_flip]

Now, I know that you have to special summon a 1500 or less ATK monster, and your opponent needs to have a monster face up on their side of the field for you to activate this card. But what about at its resolution? If the activation requirements are met, can you chain one of many cards that can put your opponent's monster face down or remove it from the field, to stop your opponent from summoning anything? Or do they need a monster face up through the entire resolution of Inferno Reckless Summon?

So in short:
Player A has Mokey Mokey face up on their side of the field.
Player B uses Call of the Haunted to special summon a Proto-Cyber Dragon.
Player B activates Inferno Reckless Summon.
Player A has no response.
Player B chains Book of Moon to put Mokey Mokey face down.
Does Player B still get to get all of the copies of Cyber Dragon?

 

[BenjaminMS]

Er... Mmm... let's see...
Inferno Reckless Summon... Yes you can. Only at activation. And yes, you can Special Summon Cyber Dragon (see ruling #2).

 

[greeneyescat]

A further question on this topic, does this effect applied to original attack or current attack including any bonus boost?

 

[masterwoo0]

A Spell or Trap Card (to include Monster effects) that gives a Field Bonus will automatically apply when a Monster is summoned.

Which would mean, you cannot use a "Command Knight" for Inferno Reckless Summon, unless her attack is reduced to equal 1500 or below when successfully summoned.

 

[kansashoops]

So, suppose my opponent has a face up Spirit Reaper on the field, while I have a Gravekeeper's Spy in face down defense, and nothing else. On my turn, I flip summon Spy, special summoning Gravekeeper's Assailant to the field. Can I then chain Inferno Reckless Summon to summon the other two copies of Gravekeeper's Assailant from my deck? (At that point I would activate Necrovalley, do the attack-target-replay thing with Assailant to wipe out all their Spirit Reapers, and then attack for 1700+2000+2000+2000 = 7700.)

 

[BenjaminMS]

You hopping from Earth to Mars... wrong order.
Give me a sec, then I'll answer it.

 

[BenjaminMS]

So: you flip Gravekeeper's Spy, to Special Summon Gravekeeper's Assailant, and then responding on it with Inferno Reckless Summon? That is OK.
But what does your 2nd part mean?

 

[kansashoops]

The part in parentheses at the end? I was just explaining what I would want to do next, assuming that Inferno Reckless Summon worked in that situation. It wasn't part of the question; I was just explaining why I would want to do something so stupid as to help my opponent summon 3 Spirit Reapers to the field.

 

[BenjaminMS]

Wipe out all their Spirit Reapers? Oh... LOL... I didn't notice that way of wiping out before

 

[greeneyescat]

Question:

When I activate Inferno Reckless Summon, does my opponent need to select a mounster of 1500 ATK or less or can he select any other mounster, e.g Archfiend Soldier (1900 ATK)?

What If I have Necrovalley and my Opponent`s mounsters are in the graveyard (the other copies of course), does he gets to summond them to the filed?

 

[masterwoo0]

Your opponent can summon any monster that does not have a restriction, regardless of attack strength.

He CANNOT summon a monster from the Graveyard while Necrovalley is active, nor can you unless you have a Gravekeeper's Chief on "your" side of the field.

 

[Cropz]

if 'Necrovalley' is active, and there's a copy of either selected monster in the graveyard, the WHOLE effect os 'Inferno Reckless Summon' is negated.

 

[masterwoo0]

I dont see where that can be true. It says "Hand, deck, and Graveyard."

I should still be able to Special Summon a copy from my hand or Deck.

That's like saying

"If your opponent cannot special summon a monster, the effect of Inferno Reckless Summon Disappears."

If they have Breaker the Magical Warrior face-up, does that mean the effect Disappears?

 

[Cropz]

'Necrovalley' negates the card's effect, not just a portion of it, and since you don't have the option of not summoning the monster that's in the graveyard, there's no way around it.

 

[kansashoops]

if 'Necrovalley' is active, and there's a copy of either selected monster in the graveyard, the WHOLE effect os 'Inferno Reckless Summon' is negated.

Well, personally I wouldn't use Inferno Reckless Summon anyway if Necrovalley is out, because the monsters I would want to summon would be boosted over 1500 ATK by it, but on what basis do you say that Necrovalley would negate it if any of the monsters involved are in the graveyard? That makes no sense to me. I would think that it negates only the specific effect of allowing a player to special summon a monster from the graveyard. I don't see how it could negate the other special summoning effects. If it did, then it should always negate all the effects, simply because the card effect mentions the graveyard, and not just in cases where one of the monsters is actually in the graveyard.

 

[masterwoo0]

If you have Gravekeeper's Chief, then you should still be able to remove monsters from your Graveyard. It's your card effect, so it should be that only your opponent is prevented from returning a monster.

I would think that it is different from The Shallow Grave because The Shallow Grave is only a graveyard effect.

 

[EmeraldDragon]

personally i dont think that Inferno Reckless Summon should be stopped by Necrovalley since the graveyard is simply a small part of the effect. If it read hand deck OR graveyard it would be an open and shut case of yeah its optional go for it but as is some may argue its ability to be activated at all. lets just hope konami says that necro cant stop it it simply stops it using the graveyard portion of its effect.

 

[slither]

I have to agree with Cropz on the Necrovalley issues, Necrovalley will negate the whole effect, similarly to how it would negate the effect of Inferno Tempest.

 

[masterwoo0]

The effect doesnt target cards in the Graveyard because it is not dependent upon the Graveyard to summon a monster.

The only monster that is targeted is the summoned monster.

This "could be" similar to trying to activate Bazoo's effect. You would simply be prevented from removing monsters.

Similarly, explain

"¢ [Re: Necrovalley] "Necrovalley" will NOT negate effects that do not target a card or cards in the Graveyard. So "Necrovalley" will NOT negate the effects of "Dark Necrofear" (when destroyed and sent to the Graveyard), "Revival Jam", "Winged Sage Falcos", "Twin-Headed Behemoth", "Mystical Knight of Jackal", and "Red-Moon Baby".

Red-Moon Baby
Effect Monster (Zombie / DARK / 3 Stars / ATK 700 / DEF 1000)

You can Special Summon to your side of the field a monster destroyed and sent to the Graveyard as a result of battle by this card at the end of the Battle Phase.

 

[Cropz]

it's was just ruled that those effects where the card wasn't originally in the graveyard (or would summon itself from the graveyard) wouldn't be negated by 'Necrovalley', this is not the case of 'Inferno Reckless Summon'.