RDS-EN005 The Creator

When just about all of us started playing we had visions of ruling the playing field with almighty 7 and 8 star monsters with bone crushing attack power. Most of us pretty much gave up on that philosophy after our two tribute monster was wiped off the field by a Trap Hole. Those were the days of LOB and MRD sets. There wasn't much to rid the field of trap cards then"¦.that was then, this is now.

Haven't you ever wanted to use at least a few of those muscle bound 7 or 8 star monsters that seem to collect dust in your binder but look oh so tempting and cool? Barrel Dragon was my first "pull" that I felt the itch to get out on the field. It was the first high level monster with a good enough effect that I felt was worth playing.

New animals have appeared since those first few sets with an even better effects. One of the newest big boys with a great effect is The Creator!

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Card #: RDS-EN005
Card Name: The Creator
Card Type: Monster
Monster Type: Thunder
Attribute: LIGHT
Level: 8
Attack: 2300
Defense: 3000
Is Effect:Yes
Is Fusion: No
Is Ritual: No
Is Union: No
Is Spirit: No
Is Toon: No

Card Text:
Select 1 monster from your Graveyard. Send 1 card from your hand to the Graveyard and Special Summon the selected monster. You can only use this effect once per turn. This card cannot be Special Summoned from the Graveyard.

Rulings:

Sending 1 card from your hand to the Graveyard is not a cost to activate the effect of "The Creator". It is part of the effect. So if your opponent chains "Disappear" to remove the targeted monster in your Graveyard from play, the effect of "The Creator" Disappears and you do not send 1 card from your hand to the Graveyard.


If you use the effect of "The Creator", and then it is flipped face-down then flipped face-up again that same turn, you may use the effect of "The Creator" again.


If you activate the effect of "The Creator", and it does not resolve because the opponent chains "Skill Drain", or removes the targeted monster from the Graveyard with "Disappear", you've still used the effect. So you cannot activate its effect again that turn (even if you destroy "Skill Drain").


To Special Summon "The Creator" with the effect of "The Creator Incarnate", you must Tribute "The Creator Incarnate" from the field, not from your hand, etc.


You can Tribute a face-down "The Creator Incarnate" to Special Summon "The Creator"

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Support:

I can't, in good conscience, review this card without giving some helpful hints for cards that support The Creator the best.

The obvious and most effective of course is the monster The Creator Incarnate. Sure you can use The Creator Incarnate's effect to special summon The Creator, that's the whole purpose of this monster. What's easy to overlook though is that The Creator Incarnate is a warrior which means it's searchable with Reinforcement of the Army and returnable from the graveyard with The Warrior Returning Alive. What's more, The Creator Incarnate is a 1600 atk warrior. There aren't a great many warriors with as respectable of an attack without tribute. Lastly, The Creator Incarnate is a light monster, we all know what that means! The Creator of course, is a light monster itself. Three The Creator Incarnate, two The Creator, one D.D. Warrior Lady, one Magician of Faith. That's six outstanding light monsters. The dark monsters are easy to fill in.

As The Creator Incarnate is The Creator's son and closest friend, Exiled Force is quite possibly The Creator's effect best usage. Use Exiled Force over and over again to clear your opponent's field.

Less obvious are a few cards that are seldom played but hold tremendous potential. The card reviewed on 4/4/05, Stray Lambs,is one of them. Keep in mind that The Creator boasts a hefty 3000 def. Stat. Lamb tokens may of course be tributed for a SET in the same turn. One needs to be wary of that nasty Nobleman of Crossout! Consider The Creator's effect though. with The Creator, playing a couple of Magic Jammers can be beneficial for discarding as a cost the monster you want to special summon with The Creator's effect on your next turn after setting it by tributing two lamb tokens!

A Hero Emerges, Monster Gate, and Reasoning are all great ways to surprise your opponent with the special summon of The Creator. Obviously these are all great ways to special summon any high level monster. If you get creative with these cards you'll find you can make a deck with few or NO 4 star or lower monsters. Such a deck is highly exciting to play and works exceedingly well with The Creator's effect special summoning your big boys from the graveyard for another slug fest!

I've found Monster Reincarnation to be a great card to use with The Creator. Since The Creator can't be special summoned from the graveyard it helps to have a way to Recycle it. Since Monster Reincarnation requires the cost of sending a card to the graveyard it allows you to send a monster to the graveyard as the cost, bring The Creator back to your hand, special summon with The Creator Incarnate, and send your Sinister Serpent to the graveyard at resolution of The Creator's effect to special summon the same monster you used as a cost for Monster Reincarnation.

Beside the use of The Creator in a Warrior or "Big Boys" deck another fun and quite possible deck idea is to use The Creator Incarnate (Warrior) Kaibaman (another light Warrior) Blue-Eyes White Dragon, and The Creator combined with The Warrior Returning Alive and Reinforcement of the Army for great search ability, serious attack power, and great special summoning ability.

Another possibility is to use The Creator with Dimension Fusion or Return from the Different Dimension for overwhelming swarm capabilities.
 
With Change of Heart gone, this monster had been seeing alot of play along with Magician of Faith.

And I say, why not play this card?

Reason why?

Every single card in your hand, is a potential Monster Reborn, a card that is banned and that I believe is the most powerful of all 5. Monster Reborn, possibly to me is one of the coolest top decks, you've got card here, The Creator, 2300 Atk, and a Def of 3000, that turns your Sinister Serpent, into a Monster Reborn card, every turn. :)

I remember when I was a begginer duelist who had just started. Me and some friends of mine were just naming monster effects that wold be cool if they ever came into play. The Creator's effect, was one of mine that I declared.
 
Oh, by the way. Good coverage on The Creator's usage, John Danker. Explained with good details on The Creator's playability.

Pretty much you covered each detail this monster can be used for, how it can be brought out, and what it can bring out.

But you have forgotten 1 detail! The combo of all combos!

Continuous Destruction Punch while your opponent's Mobius attacked this monster while The Creator is in attack mode, have Book of Moon ready and place The Creator face-down, then make your opponent suffer 600 points of Damage! Then have Mobius The Frost Monarch destroyed! *Evil Laugh* Just Kiddin
 
Yes, yes. I too love the potential of The Creator. Great review (article ;) ), John Danker. The Creator also functions well in a Zombie deck since they return from the Graveyard so well anyway.

Also, Sacred Crane works well in a deck with The Creator. Bring it back and draw a card for doing it. It's also a light monster if you wanted to stick with that theme. Molten Zombie works in the same way, except that it's fire.

Graveyard recursion is always a good thing and The Creator defines it. Now if only I could get a copy (or two)!
 
I used to love this card. The Creator and The Creator Incarnate fitted in so well in my Chaos-Warrior deck.

However, in a tournament environment, 2 tribute monsters just aren't worth it because you rarely have the oppournity to summon them. And even when you do, they don't stay on the field for more than 2 turns max. Since this card can't even be summoned to the field from the graveyard it's playability went waaaay down.


I would give this card 7/10 in casual
2/10 in tourny
 
Good review, I actually have nothing to add, but I wonder about the ruling

You can Tribute a face-down "The Creator Incarnate" to Special Summon "The Creator"


When did face-down monsters start having effects ;) ? I mean, they have no Attribute, no Type, no Level or whatever. It's also no kind of Witch where the effect activates in the graveyard, it is activated on the field...

Can I do the same with Kaibaman then? As it reads

Tribute this card to Special Summon 1 "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" from your hand.

Big Shield Gardna also does this face-down-effect-thing. I never really understood why this is possible at all...
Hmmm, who's the evil guy trying to confuse me here...:confused:
 
Azatoth said:
Good review, I actually have nothing to add, but I wonder about the ruling

You can Tribute a face-down "The Creator Incarnate" to Special Summon "The Creator"


When did face-down monsters start having effects ;) ? I mean, they have no Attribute, no Type, no Level or whatever. It's also no kind of Witch where the effect activates in the graveyard, it is activated on the field...

Can I do the same with Kaibaman then? As it reads

Tribute this card to Special Summon 1 "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" from your hand.

Big Shield Gardna also does this face-down-effect-thing. I never really understood why this is possible at all...
Hmmm, who's the evil guy trying to confuse me here...:confused:

Yes, the same can be done for Kaibaman.

Big Shield gives a player some form of control while this card is face-down, at any point this card is targetted by a Spell card while face-down, it's effect automatically triggers.
 
I personally find that The Creator works best in a high-level Special Summoning deck that runs

Monster Gate
Reasoning
A Hero Emerges
Level-Change Laboratory (TLM)

and a big swath of high-level monsters, like The Creator, Dark Magician of Chaos, Fusilier Dragon, and others. This type of deck can be deadly, and the Creator gets a lot of worthwhile targets for his effect.
 
um, the ruling is that you CANNOT tribute a face-down Kaibaman for a BEWD, so I don't think that you can tribute a face-down The Creator Incarnate for The Creator

-chaosruler
 
chaosruler said:
um, the ruling is that you CANNOT tribute a face-down Kaibaman for a BEWD, so I don't think that you can tribute a face-down The Creator Incarnate for The Creator

-chaosruler

Hmmm, I've checked the FAQs, and you were correct.

I believe that is an error.

You can tribute effects such as Kaibaman, Red-Eyes B. Chick, Kaiser Sea Horse, etc. for Tribute Summons or as tributes to Special Summon, even while face-down. The Players are in control of whatever is tributed, performing the tribute is what matters, not the position whether face-up or face-down.

The same can go for Manticore of Darkness, as you can tribute face-down Beast, Beast-Warrior, or Wing-Beast types to Special Summon Manticore of Darkness during the End Phase it was placed into the graveyard.

The only case if that would be true if cards stated, "Send this card face-up," or "Tribute this 1 card face-up", etc.
 
1.
Big Shield gives a player some form of control while this card is face-down, at any point this card is targetted by a Spell card while face-down, it's effect automatically triggers.
I know that, I just want to understand the game mechanic behind the activation of effects of face-down monsters. My intuition says that they could write on a card that it has an effect while face-down, but it would not have any effect at all because it's just a face-down card and nothing else.
I could live with Big Shield Gardna's effect, okay, but tributing a face-down monster card just because it's effect does not prohibit that explicitly...no, I don't know why one could do such things. Where is this smiley banging it's head against a wall, I want to use it here...

2.
um, the ruling is that you CANNOT tribute a face-down Kaibaman for a BEWD, so I don't think that you can tribute a face-down The Creator Incarnate for The Creator

Where did you get this from, the Netrepâ„¢ Card Registry doesn't contain any rulings to Kaibaman. *hopes to get to know some new ressources of rulings...knowledge...power* ;) Forum FAQ's?

3.
The only case if that would be true if cards stated, "Send this card face-up," or "Tribute this 1 card face-up", etc.

Yeah, like Red-Eyes B. Chick:
Send this face-up card on your side of the field to the Graveyard to Special Summon 1 "Red-Eyes B. Dragon" from your hand. :D :D :D

The thing that simply doesn't make sense to me is that face-down cards do have effects, they aren't anything more that face-down cards for me.

As far as I know, face-down monster cards also don't have a type, so this Manticore thing would be wrong in my eyes too. Think about using DNA Surgery on a face-down Freed the Brave Wanderer saying "Beast"...could you send it to the graveyard for Manticore? No.
 
Azatoth said:
2.

Where did you get this from, the Netrepâ„¢ Card Registry doesn't contain any rulings to Kaibaman. *hopes to get to know some new ressources of rulings...knowledge...power* ;) Forum FAQ's?

3.

Yeah, like Red-Eyes B. Chick:
Send this face-up card on your side of the field to the Graveyard to Special Summon 1 "Red-Eyes B. Dragon" from your hand. :D :D :D

The thing that simply doesn't make sense to me is that face-down cards do have effects, they aren't anything more that face-down cards for me.

Whoops, looks like I should of read Red-Eyes B. Chick text before I posted a reply. LoL

Also, to where chaosruler found that ruling can be found in Card Registry under "The Creator"
 
Let bring these debates to Rules and Regulation. We must respect this thread being it is John Danker's The Creator for Card Reviews, and not for rulings.
 
chaosruler said:
um, the ruling is that you CANNOT tribute a face-down Kaibaman for a BEWD, so I don't think that you can tribute a face-down The Creator Incarnate for The Creator

-chaosruler

Actually, scratch everything I said, you can tribute a face-down The Creator Incarnate to Special SUmmon The Creator from your hand. Card Registry states so:

You can Tribute a face-down "The Creator Incarnate" to Special Summon "The Creator".

The same would be for Kaibaman face-down for Blue-Eyes White Dragon.
 
chaosruler said:
um, the ruling is that you CANNOT tribute a face-down Kaibaman for a BEWD, so I don't think that you can tribute a face-down The Creator Incarnate for The Creator

-chaosruler

The FAQ states that you can indeed tribute a face down The Creator Incarnate to special summon The Creator.
 
Ok, I startet a new thread at Rules and Regulations for this issue. Sorry for getting from reviewing to ruling and regulating in this thread. ;)

So I link to 2 The Creator decks to make people happy again:

http://www.igforums.com//threads/8146
http://www.igforums.com//threads/8134

You might find it remarkable that John is the last one to post in both threads, and also adding quite a number of good advices there.
*gets a typical psychologist's facial expression* Is it possible that this is one of your favourite cards, John? :)

Both are not using Book of Moon, btw. Using Book of Moon on an attacked The Creator is nice, as your opponent gets damage and The Creator is face-up afterwards, so no Nobleman of Crossout biting you in the...part of your body that seldom sees sunlight.
 
Oh my... I ones get´s 2 copys, I never analise this monster, so I trade them, Now I can not have this cards back, It's sad
 
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