Return from the Different Dimension Vs Special Summon Only Monsters

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Tonylaudat

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I was wondering if it was possible to special summon a specila summon only monster such as CED after it was removed from play (assuming that it was special summoned properly in the first place). I know that the you can special summon it from the graveyard in that case, but I was wondering if that also help true of CED was removed from play.
 
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To add another qusetion to the first what about all the VWXYZ fusions if I summon them properly first and remove them can I bring them back with the same card?
 
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Unfortunatley there is no way to properly summon the XYZ Fusions, since they can never be Fusion Summoned. So they cannot be Special Summoned from the Removed From Play Area.
 
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Well cards that do not have EXCEPT can be RFG and then Special Summoned if they were properly summoned first, like for example Chaos Emperor Dragon or Valkyrion the Magna Warrior or even VtoZ since that is the only one in that series that is only an ONLY instead of an EXCEPT.
 
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DaGuyWitBluGlasses said:
VW and VWXYZ may be revived if properly summoned. Which really contradicts the because clause of the XYZ fusions :S . But that's the rulings.
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Only half right there man. VW-Tiger Catapult can't be summon from the Graveyard after it was properally summoned. There isn't a ruling that says it can like VWXYZ-Dragon Catapult has. There for you can't.


The ruling is stupid becuse if VWXYZ-Dragon Catapult can be special summoned after it was properally summoned first, so should the rest of the V-Z fusions.

I'm going off the rulings in the Netrep database. If there's a ruling on yugioh-card.com then I'd like it if someone would post it up for me to read. =/

Right now I gotta go take my Math final, last test for this semister! RAWR!!!!!! >8^)
 
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Tkwiget said:
Only half right there man. VW-Tiger Catapult can't be summon from the Graveyard after it was properally summoned. There isn't a ruling that says it can like VWXYZ-Dragon Catapult has. There for you can't.
there's no need of that kind of rulings...you CAN summon vw from the graveyard, if properly summoned before...it text does not have the wording of "nomi" monster...
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Tkwiget said:
Only half right there man. VW-Tiger Catapult can't be summon from the Graveyard after it was properally summoned. There isn't a ruling that says it can like VWXYZ-Dragon Catapult has. There for you can't.


The ruling is stupid becuse if VWXYZ-Dragon Catapult can be special summoned after it was properally summoned first, so should the rest of the V-Z fusions.

I'm going off the rulings in the Netrep database. If there's a ruling on yugioh-card.com then I'd like it if someone would post it up for me to read. =/

Right now I gotta go take my Math final, last test for this semister! RAWR!!!!!! >8^)
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VW and V2Z only have a restriction on how they are summoned from the fusion deck, so they can be revived if properly summoned.

XYZ, however, has a restriction on how it is summoned at all.
 
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Ooh, ok, I was in mid typing with my information on how you were wrong when I noticed where I was at fault. Gotcha..Key word is "except" and it doesn't exist with VW and VWXYZ fusions.

<nods head> Ok, that makes sense.
 
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Ok, to clear this up once and for all, hopefully.

ALL of the original XYZ fusions had their card text errata'd to finally clarify they are truly NOMI monsters.
This card cannot be Special Summoned except by removing from play the above cards on your side of the field...
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Note that it says cannot be Special Summoned...period. That means ANY type of Special Summon.

Now for the new VW and VWXYZ fusions, they changed the text. For VWXYZ, I can understand, but for VW, it 'should' have been the same as the previous XYZ fusions, but I digress...
This card can only be Special Summoned from your Fusion Deck by removing from play the above cards on your side of the field.
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Note the ONLY restriction here is the way it is Special Summoned from the Fusion Deck, not from the Graveyard, or RFP. These are NOT NOMI monsters. So, if either the VW or VWXYZ are properly Special Summoned from the Fusion Deck, then they CAN be brought back from the Graveyard or RFP.
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There isn't a ruling that says it can like VWXYZ-Dragon Catapult has. There for you can't.
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The line of text that I quoted above is on BOTH VW and VWXYZ. I can only assume the reason the 'can be brought back' ruling isn't on VW is because they (UDE/Konami) didn't think it would be an issue. We as Judges are supposed to go by card text and existing rulings. When a ruling doesn't exist for a card, we're supposed to find similar cards and extrapolate the best ruling possible from the available info. So, in this case, we have identical text on 2 cards, but only 1 of them has a ruling. Why would you say that the one w/o a ruling CAN'T be brought back because it's rulings don't say so? The summoning text is identical; therefore, both cards 'should' be ruled the same way in the absence of rulings for one of the two cards.

[edit]Crud...beaten to the punch! This is what I get for trying to do this at work!
 
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