*sigh* DR3 is out ...

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Oh man. I just updated the dang database.

Does anyone mind significantly if RONIN doesn't show Dragon Master Knight and DR03 for a while? Like at least until the weekend? I've innundated everyone with updates lately, it doesn't seem fair to throw ANOTHER one out so soon. It would take me a couple days just to put in all those cards as it is.

What a busy month in the land of RONIN.
 
that would be Dark Revalations 3, which would be the reprints of:

Soul of the Duelist
Rise of Destiny
Flaming Eternity
The Lost Millennium

Have fun.
 
Additional revenue?......er, I mean a chance to pull a card you already got when the original set came out.


Actually, I have to admit that when I was just starting out last year, the Dark Beginnings and Dark Revalations boosters netted me some nice cards from sets I wouldn't normally have puchased.(My Morphing Jar is a DB.) They just aren't really as useful to an established player.(But, not useless. Did I mention I got my Morphing Jar from a DB?):D
 
Guys the sets the reprint in those collections are decent and have good cards and lets face it once the reprint comes out the other sets if they are still in production at all stop being produced so if you want a card youre gonna need to go get the reprint box.
 
EmeraldDragon said:
Guys the sets the reprint in those collections are decent and have good cards and lets face it once the reprint comes out the other sets if they are still in production at all stop being produced so if you want a card youre gonna need to go get the reprint box.
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I dont know about where you're from, but I can still get just about any Booster Pack I want with no problem, outside of Dark Crisis and Pharonic Guardian, on a regular basis.

Plus, there's always eBay. The older the Set gets, the easier it is to buy a box, "most of the time". I got a AST Sealed Box for $23 dollars, and got Enemy Controller, Zaborg the Thunder Monarch, and The End of Anubis, among the better Holo's, so I more than made out.

I am not downing Reprints, but enough is enough. When Dark Beginning came out, there was justification as to introducing it, because access was VERY limited to the Money Cards. Now, they are putting out Reprint Sets while you still have access to the actual Booster most of the Cards come in. While not wholly bad, most players would rather move on to NEW cards. We still dont have cards like Des Volstgalph in the game (other than the SJC Winners and Buyers), yet they keep giving us Reprints in the form of Tins and Packs.

If all we have to look forward to is empty promises of a "better 2007" and Champion Pack Reprint Cards, then what's the use??
 
Well here in Ireland and most of europe if im not mistaken you can only really get the last 4 boosters and the 2 latest reprint sets as well. Ya can get the tins too but who cares. Well my mate who pulled an ultimate an ultra and two supers from one tin. Damn him.

Anyway the basic thing im trying to say is that over here and in most small shops even where space is either limited or they simply dont wanna "waste" the space on having too many sets on show then reprints really help out those of us without credit cards. Ebay is all well and good but only if ya can actually use it.
 
EmeraldDragon said:
Well here in Ireland and most of europe if im not mistaken you can only really get the last 4 boosters and the 2 latest reprint sets as well. Ya can get the tins too but who cares. Well my mate who pulled an ultimate an ultra and two supers from one tin. Damn him.

Anyway the basic thing im trying to say is that over here and in most small shops even where space is either limited or they simply dont wanna "waste" the space on having too many sets on show then reprints really help out those of us without credit cards. Ebay is all well and good but only if ya can actually use it.
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True, and that is the downfall of living in a country other than the US, as even though we are 48 Contiguous States that are somewhat unique, we are still very similar whereas we have mostly the same stores everywhere, and can basically go anywhere and expect to see the same things we had where we came from. And if we cant find it at one place, we can find it somewhere else.
 
The Dark Revelations are financially sensible, as Dingo hinted. You create a card set that has a base for new players to enter in on and get a feel for the game. While it's true some of us can get what we need if we look hard enough, that is not financialy lucrative for the card makers themselves. It makes more sense to make the most cards possible available to the majority of the public from a monetary point of view then it does to expect a 9-year-old kid, their target demographic anyway, to hunt down cards the way a 30-year-old could. More then likely the only time he's ever going to see a pack of Yu-Gi-Oh! cards is when he goes to Wal-Mart with his mom or for the 30 minutes she lets him spend on weekends in the card shop. We tend to look at card sets at "what does this do for my binder", but Konami could care less about your binder, and more about their stock portfolio.
 
D.M.E.N. said:
If there was a card errata, with DR3 we get the correct text on the card. That's something good at the least.
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Well... That says a lot when the best you can hope for is a card text change. :duel_no
 
Oceanus said:
So... The point of creating them?
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In Japan, booster sets are only printed for a year and then discontinued. So its a method of getting opld cards out again, there.

That not being an issue here, thus DR3 will not be released as a stand alone booster set.
 
Digital Jedi said:
The Dark Revelations are financially sensible, as Dingo hinted. You create a card set that has a base for new players to enter in on and get a feel for the game. While it's true some of us can get what we need if we look hard enough, that is not financialy lucrative for the card makers themselves. It makes more sense to make the most cards possible available to the majority of the public from a monetary point of view then it does to expect a 9-year-old kid, their target demographic anyway, to hunt down cards the way a 30-year-old could. More then likely the only time he's ever going to see a pack of Yu-Gi-Oh! cards is when he goes to Wal-Mart with his mom or for the 30 minutes she lets him spend on weekends in the card shop. We tend to look at card sets at "what does this do for my binder", but Konami could care less about your binder, and more about their stock portfolio.
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I disagree on a couple of perspectives. First, if the motives behind the reprints were noble, you would still be able to buy DB1, DB2, DR1, DR2, DR3 from now until the end of the game. That's not the case. In the particular case of DR3, the 4 sets involved are not out of print yet. I'll admit they're a little hard to find, but considering that DR3 is only going to be released as part of Ultimate Edition 2, I argue a 9 year old newbie would have a better chance of acquiring something from the original sets than this atrosity. Consider the ratios. If I am a 9 year old pining for Horus LV8, the chances of me pulling one from DR3 are 1:192, versus 1:96 (Ultra Rare) in SOD. I'd also have to buy $1440 worth of Ultimate Editions (at $15ea) to get those 192 packs, if I'm a 9 year old in the United States.

My second argument is market saturation. DB1 was indeed a good idea, because the demand for certain cards was much greater than the number of cards in existance. Fast forward to today ... do you hear many people whining they can't find "Elemental Hero Thunder Giant"? "Ancient Gear Golem"? Certainly not. By oversaturating the market with repackaged product, you LOSE sales. Assuming once again I'm that 9 year old kid, I'm NOT going to blow my allowance looking for that Horus LV8 when I know 18 people I can trade with and get it instead. Trading = no money for Konami = bad for the stock portfolio.

I'm glad it's not a booster release here in the U.S., but it's still completely stupid from any perspective I can come up with.

PS - I realize the market/situations are rather different in other countries/regions. My opinions are solely based on a very typical American "I can't see over the oceans or across that border" perspective. No insults intended to anyone.
 
Yeah, Dark Revelations are good since you get some Ultra/Super Rares from previous packs in Common/Rare style. Not to mention alot of those packs are not available in Hobby stores anymore cause of rarity. Now they'll be more accessable and with higher rate of better pulls. ANd the card values are cheaper too so it's easier to buy them individually.

Let's see, the good cards in those 4 sets are.

Flaming Eternity (EDIT: Sorry, made a mistake about Zaborg)
Sacred Phoenix. (But we already have EEN Secret Rare version)
Rescue Cat (Although the 1x Last Will makes this OTK deck weaker)
Gatling Dragon (Good for fusion decks for alternative Stein win)
King Dragun (Good for Dragon decks)
Deck Devastation Virus

Rise of Destiny
Sasuke Saumurai #4 (Decent in a Warrior Toolbox tech)
Thestalos (But we already have Fire Structure for him)
Pitch-Black Warwolf
Mirage Dragon
Dekoichi (Yeah, we all know the power of trains)


Soul of Duelist
Horus LV4/6/8 (LV8 have a reprint, but LV4 and especially LV6 is hard to get and needed some reprint)
Dark Mimic LV1/3
MSLV2 (There's Warrior Structure for him though)
Mobius (Again, there's Water Structure)
Dark Factory of Mass Production (A must in a Normal deck)
Mind Crush (Decent combo with Trap Dustshoot, which is seeing play as tech, especially in OCG Japan right now cause of E-Hero Airman)
Hallow Life Barrier (Good sidedeck option)

The Lost Milliennium
Ancient Gear Golem (But we'll get him in Machine Structure)
D.D. Survivor (Good in MacroCosmos deck)
Des Wombat (Good tech against Burn)
Brain Control (With Snatch Steal Banned, this card now became really popular)
 
I disagree on a couple of perspectives. First, if the motives behind the reprints were noble, you would still be able to buy DB1, DB2, DR1, DR2, DR3 from now until the end of the game. That's not the case. In the particular case of DR3, the 4 sets involved are not out of print yet. I'll admit they're a little hard to find, but considering that DR3 is only going to be released as part of Ultimate Edition 2, I argue a 9 year old newbie would have a better chance of acquiring something from the original sets than this atrosity. Consider the ratios. If I am a 9 year old pining for Horus LV8, the chances of me pulling one from DR3 are 1:192, versus 1:96 (Ultra Rare) in SOD. I'd also have to buy $1440 worth of Ultimate Editions (at $15ea) to get those 192 packs, if I'm a 9 year old in the United States.

My second argument is market saturation. DB1 was indeed a good idea, because the demand for certain cards was much greater than the number of cards in existance. Fast forward to today ... do you hear many people whining they can't find "Elemental Hero Thunder Giant"? "Ancient Gear Golem"? Certainly not. By oversaturating the market with repackaged product, you LOSE sales. Assuming once again I'm that 9 year old kid, I'm NOT going to blow my allowance looking for that Horus LV8 when I know 18 people I can trade with and get it instead. Trading = no money for Konami = bad for the stock portfolio.

I'm glad it's not a booster release here in the U.S., but it's still completely stupid from any perspective I can come up with.

PS - I realize the market/situations are rather different in other countries/regions. My opinions are solely based on a very typical American "I can't see over the oceans or across that border" perspective. No insults intended to anyone.
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Noble? I never meant to intimate that the intentions were noble, just lucrative. Add to that, your thinking from a trader's perspective and not from the typical "suit" that decides these things. The general mentality is to make as much money as possible by generating as much as you can within a given time period. The trading market means little to them, since they don't plan on existing any profit from this game in the long term, only maximising what they can get out of it in the short term. 3-4 year business plans are typical for businesses this size. This is the mentality that crept into the Disney World corporation in the 90s. Make as much money as you possibly can, as quickly as you can by generating quick, cheap marketing strategies that require little to no effort on your part, little to no money on your part and take money away from "unimportant" projects that require a great deal of quality control, creativity and concern for the customer. These guys don't care about their particular business, because whatever business they are in is disposable. Once they maximize and syphon all they can out of a thing, they can move on to something else and start all over again. It's not about concern for their business, it's about concern for the bottom line. The business, or in this case, the game, is merely a tool to an end and entirely disposable.
 
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