I've been following you, chaos . Personally, I would never even attempt to level up SMLV4 to SMLV8 the normal way, Level Up! is the only way to go. Unless, of cousre, you Shien's Spy it to your opponent, draw like mad, and then take it back...ChaosNecro said:Mm... Level Up!, Bistro Butcher (to make your opponent drawing), Card Destruction, Diffusion Wave-Motion, Magician's Circle, Shining Angel... Will come back soon... this is the first set of suggestions