The Legendary Fisherman vs. A Legendary Ocean

Raigekick

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Netrep states:

1) "A Legendary Ocean" vs. "The Legendary Fisherman" - "The Legendary Fisherman" does not get the ATK/DEF increase from "A Legendary Ocean".
2) "The Legendary Fisherman" gets no benefit from the effect of "Umi".

Question:
Since Legendary Fisherman is not affected by ALO, does this mean Fisherman will still be a level 5 monster?
 
when there is alo on the field, the legendary f gets 4 stars , he's unafected by magic cards that target him, he can't be attacked by a monster and he gets 200 point of atk because he is a water creature
 
But Legendary Fisherman's effect is:

When "Umi" is face-up on the field, this card is unaffected by any Spell Cards and cannot be attacked by your opponent's monsters.

And Netrep already ruled that Legendary F gets no benefit from the effect of "Umi"

Does this mean he won't get any benefit from ALO too?
 
jean-denis said:
when there is alo on the field, the legendary f  gets 4 stars ,  he's unaffected by magic cards that target him, he can't be attacked by a monster and  he gets 200 point of atk because he is a water creature
I'm sry but thats wrong

the l. f. is unaffected by any spell cards.

and yes @ raigekick
this means he won´t get any benefit from alo or any other spell card.
but you can summon him without any tribute, because in your hand, he has 4 stars, so you normal summon him like any other 4 star monster. but after summoning, he will have 5 stars, because, as you allready said, he is unaffected by any spell card. this includes ALO.

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You can summon him without tribute yes, but after he hits the field and his effect takes place, he will be a level 5 again, so if Gravity Bind or something like that is activated (which in a lot of ALO decks they run it) he cannot attack.

Wanted to clear that in as well since I didn't see anyone else state it.
 
ok can you explain me this rule that seems to me very strange: when there is umi on the field and the fisherman is the only one monster on your side, your oponent may attack directly

i think the real rule should be that the oponent can't attack
 
The Legendary Fisherman is not able to be attacked. When an opponent declares an attack, the only other option is directly.

That is the short of it. The attacking directly ruling is correct.
 
Dlanaan said:
The Legendary Fisherman is not able to be attacked. When an opponent declares an attack, the only other option is directly.

That is the short of it. The attacking directly ruling is correct.

How does this relate to a "Marauding Captain" lock? (ie. there are 2 Marauding Captain's on the same side of the field). If you can't attack Legendary Fisherman, would the same rule apply here as well?
 
Marauding Captain doesn't say you can't attack it. Marauding Captain says that if you want to attack a Warrior Type, you must attack *it* specifically. The problem is that if another is on the field, you must attack that one... but the first says you must attack that one, and so forth.

The only cards I have found that really conflict with The Legendary Fisherman would be Arcane Archer of the Forest (changed to Plant by DNA Surgery) and Prickle Fairy (changed to Insect by DNA Surgery). In each of these cases, even if they are the only monsters on their respective fields, the opponent may not attack directly. I think it has to do with the fact that these cards state that a certain Type cannot be attacked, whereas The Legendary Fisherman (and Guardian Kay'est which shares its ruling) says that IT cannot be attacked.
 
you cant attack it while ALO is on the field and there is another monster.

so you have to attack the other monster, but once the field is clear since you cannot choose the legendary fisherman as an attack target, then might aswell attack who you can attack, your opponent.

unlike having 2 command knights on the field or 2 marudin captains or 2 solar flare dragons, the Legendary fisherman just says it cant be an attack target.

its wierd, but it works.
 
helpoemer316 said:
You can summon him without tribute yes, but after he hits the field and his effect takes place, he will be a level 5 again, so if Gravity Bind or something like that is activated (which in a lot of ALO decks they run it) he cannot attack.

He wouldn't be able to attack if he was a level 4 monster anyway.
 
Hello... Just like to check with you... if fisherman is the only monster only with umi, What happened if i activate creather swap? does the fisherman affected by it when i have another monster on the field?
 
If "The Legendary Fisherman" is the only monster on your side of the field while "Umi" is also on the field, "Creature Swap" cannot be activated since it would not be able to resolve.
 
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