Timing Involved?

[chaosruler]

Does Poison Draw Frog have timing issues? Because I think it may be an optional trigger.

EXAMPLE: *Look further down in this thread for a new example.*

-chaosruler

 

[blade146]

I believe this goes on the lines of Witch and Sangan. As long as it is face up on the field when destroyed the effect goes off.

Edit: Missed the word "can" in the text. This means you have the option to use the effect. In this case I would say you could miss the timing.

 

[masterwoo0]

Looks like a winning combo to me!! Should work.

 

[DaGuyWitBluGlasses]

Missing the Timing: "Peten the Dark Clown" is a "when"¦ you can" optional Trigger Effect. This means that "Peten" being sent to the Graveyard has to be the very last thing that happened in order to activate its effect.


Poison Draw Frog:
When this face-up card on the field is sent to the Graveyard (unless it was attacked while face-down and destroyed as a result of battle), you can draw 1 card from your Deck.

Therefore should be assumed to be an optional trigger effect.

 

[bigdevilyogi]

yes, since it said can it is optional so....

 

[chaosruler]

Not true. Can means you may do it, it doesn't automatically give it timing issues. But I was thinking it was optional. Shall I send this to the Judge's List, or are we all in consensus now?

-chaosruler

 

[masterwoo0]

What's the issue here??? The last thing to happen is Frog going to the Graveyard because of Call of the Haunted being removed.

 

[chaosruler]

The rest of Giant Trunade has yet to resolve. Hmm, you may be right, hmm, I guess Call would go back to the hand and then Poison Draw Frog goes to the Graveyard. Interesting.....

-chaosruler

 

[masterwoo0]

?????? Giant Trunade had to resolve in order to send all cards on the field in the Spell and Trap Zone back to hand. What's left to resolve?

Frog hit the field face-up, then got sent to the Graveyard because Call of the Haunted was returned to hand. Sounds like a resolution to me since you didnt indicate that there was anything else in the chain.

 

[chaosruler]

True, let me post a better example.

NEW EXAMPLE: Posion Draw Frog in the grave. CotH face-down. I MST his CotH, he chains it targetting Jinzo. He then chains Dust Tornado to destroymy face-down Call of the Haunted, and I chain it targetting Posion Draw Frog. Now do I miss the timing?

-chaosruler

 

[Digital Jedi]

Optional or not, Poison Draw Frog being sent to the Graveyard is the last thing to have heppened in this example.

Chain Link 2: Call of the Haunted Special Summons Poison Draw Frog.
Chain Link 1: Giant Trunade returns Call of the Haunted to the hand.

Then Poison Draw Frog goes to the Graveyard.

 

[densetsu_x]

True, let me post a better example.

NEW EXAMPLE: Posion Draw Frog in the grave. CotH face-down. I MST his CotH, he chains it targetting Jinzo. He then chains Dust Tornado to destroymy face-down Call of the Haunted, and I chain it targetting Posion Draw Frog. Now do I miss the timing?

-chaosruler

Yes you miss the timing.

 

[chaosruler]

alright, thanks for the input, Andy

-chaosruler