ultimate offering

[Suka044]

i have a question about ultimate offering since its my trap im the only one who can use it right? and if i have it active and on my opponents turn he uses lets say a lightning vortex and i chain ultimate offering to summon a sangan so the UO will resolve first putting a sangan inplay then the lightning vortex will resolve killing the sanga letting me get a card
is this right?

my main questions is can my opponent use it and can i use it in a chain other than the battle phase i was told by a judge that my opponent can use it and i can only use it on my turn and in the battle phase on my opponents turn

 

[Deathjester]

Only the controller of Ultimate Offering can use its effect.

You can use the effect during either Main Phase 1 or 2 of your turn, or the Battle Phase of your opponent's turn.

http://lists.upperdeck.com/read/messages?id=3002

And on a side note, they really need to get around to actually adding Ultimate Offering to their card rulings section.

 

[Digital Jedi]

Oh yeah, in addition I believe it's been established you can use it's effect as many times as you can afford or are able to pay for it. Sweet.

There is an a personlized eratta for this card in the link in my sig.

 

[YaDoc]

Oh yeah, in addition I believe it's been established you can use it's effect as many times as you can afford or are able to pay for it. Sweet.

There is an a personlized eratta for this card in the link in my sig.

Yes you can use it as many times as you can afford to pay the cost. It can load the field for a massive assult!

 

[John Danker]

I've always preached that Ultimate Offering is a highly under-rated card, especially in a deck designed to take advantage of it. Imagine a deck playing 3 Warrior Returning Alive, 2 Reinforcement of the Army, and 2 Maurading Captains in conjunction with Ultimate Offering. It's easy to see how many monsters you could put on the field in a hurry.

 

[chaosruler]

John Danker - if only Makyura wasn't banned, it'd be even nastier

also, you MAY chain to UO's effect with another UO activation, as long as you have the LP to do so

-chaosruler

 

[daivahataka]

Other than the gradual LP loss Ultimate Offering's only major flaw is that you need strong drawing power to keep it fed with monsters to summon.
The likes of Summoned Skull, Mad Dog of Darkness and Gemini Elf can combo with Heart of the Underdog for this but you really do need to build the deck around it to take full advantage. (and then cry when your opponent activates Mirror Force/Cyber Jar/Torrential Tribute)

 

[Azatoth]

(and then cry when your opponent activates [...] Torrential Tribute)

Yeah, rather a stupid idea to summon 5 monsters this way when a spell/trap is set Don't be too greedy, 4 is enough *lol*

This card goes well with spirits, too, as it's either the only or one of not many cards allowing to normal summon more than once per turn (I'm pretty sure it's the only one), and spirits can't be special summoned...see my sig...

 

[John Danker]

Some of you folks are really missing it here. As with any other card you need to know how best to play Ultimate Offering. You use the right time and make sure the conditions are right, set yourself up for success.

You're absolutely right in that anyone would be silly to summon 5 monsters when their opponent has the threat of two face down S/T cards. This is what cards like MST and Dust Tornado are for though.

By the logic I'm seeing in this thread by some they must not ever summon or special summon more than one monster in a turn.....might get them all destroyed!

Yugioh is a game of calculated risk and setting yourself up for success. Ultimate Offering when used well does that exceedingly well.

 

[Mazera DeVille]

Don't know if it is worth mentioning but, if the opponent summons 5 monsters during the opponents battle phase, Torrential Tribute cannot be used on it as it can't be used during the damage step.
Ultimate Offering is a great card and the amount of duelists I have played who are not aware that you can summon during the start of their battle phase, they assume that it can only be used during Main Phase 1 and/or 2 and that they can use it as well, but since it's a trap they are aware it can be used during either turn. A couple of duelists got tried to get into fights with me because they felt they were right and when they are proved wrong, they do a runner.
It just goes to show, not all cards are as bad as they seem, take Soul Exchange for example.

Just an additional question, I remember a while back people saying that you could only use the effect of Ultimate Offering during the turn you activate it, e.g. if you activate during your opponents turn, you could only summon during their battle phase or during your turn in your main phase 1/2. Does this still apply or can you use the effect any time. I was trying to find the ruling but not had much luck.

 

[daivahataka]

Just an additional question, I remember a while back people saying that you could only use the effect of Ultimate Offering during the turn you activate it, e.g. if you activate during your opponents turn, you could only summon during their battle phase or during your turn in your main phase 1/2. Does this still apply or can you use the effect any time. I was trying to find the ruling but not had much luck.

Complete spoof, you can use it during your own Main phases or your opponent's Battle phase regardless of when it was activated.

 

[miiaah]

Mazera DeVille[/ycard]]Don't know if it is worth mentioning but, if the opponent summons 5 monsters during the opponents battle phase, Torrential Tribute cannot be used on it as it can't be used during the damage step.

I believe you can't use neither Torrential Tribute, neither Ultimate Offering in Damage Step.

 

[daivahataka]

I believe you can't use neither Torrential Tribute, neither Ultimate Offering in Damage Step.

True, UO and TT can both be used in the main Battle phase but not in the damage step so anything brought out with UO can be responded to with Trap Hole, Bottomless Trap Hole, Torrential Tribute, etc... (as long as it could normally be responded to with said traps).

 

[John Danker]

Don't know if it is worth mentioning but, if the opponent summons 5 monsters during the opponents battle phase, Torrential Tribute cannot be used on it as it can't be used during the damage step.

Be careful there. Battle phase doesn't necessarily equal damage step. Ultimate Offering's effect could not be applied during the damage step but it's effect certainly could be activated during the battle phase in response to an attack but before the damage step. If this were the case Torrential Tribute certainly could be activated once monsters were summoned via Ultimate Offering's effect.

Just an additional question, I remember a while back people saying that you could only use the effect of Ultimate Offering during the turn you activate it, e.g. if you activate during your opponents turn, you could only summon during their battle phase or during your turn in your main phase 1/2. Does this still apply or can you use the effect any time. I was trying to find the ruling but not had much luck.

Ultimate Offering is of course a continuous trap card. Once activated you may repeatedly use it's effect during your own main phases or during your opponent's battle phase (but of course not during damage calculation as was we've referenced)

 

[Mazera DeVille]

Apologies in adding any confusion to the last statement regarding Torrential Tribute.

When you say 'during your main phase 1/2 or during your opponents battle phase' does that mean you can use the effect during your turn and then on the opponents turn following yours where you have used that effect, you can use it again in the battle phase. E.g

You normal summon a monster in your main phase 1, then activate Ultimate Offering, pay 500 and use it again to normal summon another monster making a total of 2, then end your turn. The opponent starts his turn, and summons then enters his battle phase, at that point can I then pay another 500 and tribute summon both the monsters summoned in the previous turn for a level 7 or higher monster.

I have a problem trying to get across my points sometimes and often know what I want to say but can't get the words out to say it.

 

[John Danker]

Apologies in adding any confusion to the last statement regarding Torrential Tribute.

When you say 'during your main phase 1/2 or during your opponents battle phase' does that mean you can use the effect during your turn and then on the opponents turn following yours where you have used that effect, you can use it again in the battle phase. E.g

You normal summon a monster in your main phase 1, then activate Ultimate Offering, pay 500 and use it again to normal summon another monster making a total of 2, then end your turn. The opponent starts his turn, and summons then enters his battle phase, at that point can I then pay another 500 and tribute summon both the monsters summoned in the previous turn for a level 7 or higher monster.

What you stated above in correct.

 

[Mazera DeVille]

Ah cool, only reason I asked was that you said during main phase 1/2 or opponents battle phase instead of 'and', sound like either not both, thanks for your help .

 

[Digital Jedi]

Apologies in adding any confusion to the last statement regarding Torrential Tribute.

When you say 'during your main phase 1/2 or during your opponents battle phase' does that mean you can use the effect during your turn and then on the opponents turn following yours where you have used that effect, you can use it again in the battle phase. E.g

You normal summon a monster in your main phase 1, then activate Ultimate Offering, pay 500 and use it again to normal summon another monster making a total of 2, then end your turn. The opponent starts his turn, and summons then enters his battle phase, at that point can I then pay another 500 and tribute summon both the monsters summoned in the previous turn for a level 7 or higher monster.

I have a problem trying to get across my points sometimes and often know what I want to say but can't get the words out to say it.

Stated simply you can use UO during each of your Main Phases as many times as you can afford to pay for it in a single turn.

So in your situation you could have paid 500, summoned a monster, then paid 500 again and summoned another monster, then do it again provided you had the Life Points and Monsters in you hand . . . al before you even ended your turn.

But if you wanted to only summon one extra monster that turn then yes, you could do what you did and then wait for your opponents Battle Phase on then summon another one, or more if you choose to do so.

So to reiterate, Ultimat Offering can be used during your Main Phase 1, Your Main Phase 2 or your opponent's Battle Phase (But not your Battle Phase) and as many times in a row as you can afford to pay for it.

 

[removefromp]

can you use UO to normal summon Jinzo to negate traps when your opponent activate trap cards such as Trap Hole and TT when you summon a monster?

 

[StRiKe_NiNjA]

Yes you can.

Player1: summons Celtic Guardian
Player2: responds with Trap Hole
Player1: chains with Ultimate Offering
Players do not respond
Resolve Steps
Step2: Player1 tributes Celtic Guardian to summon Jinzo
Step1: Trap Hole does not resolve, as Jinzo Continuos Effect has already been applied