What level player are you?

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PerfectZelgadis

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I would like to state a theory I've had for a long time. I'm sure no ones going to like this, but I honestly don't care. Its just how I am so don't take offense if you find yourself as one of these types of players I'm going to talk about. I'm just stating my observations. Now drop your own inhibitions and seriously look at yourself and figure out what type of player you are.

Newbie/younger player:
Every week at your local tournament you'll see them. This is the little kid who shows up with a 120 card deck, or an exact copy of a starter deck, or just a bunch of random cards through together. These players need to be encouraged. If they trully love the game, then they'll get better and stay at your tournament and if you don't watch them they'll move up the ranks and before long out do you.

Starting to get good:
Now these players have been playing a little while. At this point they're not making random decks, but are still occasionally throwing in cards because they are pretty. They are trying to be original, and are coming up with somewhat creative ideas, but they just don't have the game knowledge to capitalize. These players are often easily discouraged. Now depending on thier love of the game they'll either leave or move on to the next tier.

Netdecker's:
Thats right, Netdecker's is part of the evolution of all yugioh players. This allows them to start building thier knowledge of the game, and most of these are level 1's. (hey I'm just being honest, I'm an L1 myself and proud of it.) They start looking at places like Metagame, Pojo, and here looking at decks, that seem strong and they copy. Despite what a lot of people believe this is a normal part of the evolution of all players. While you may've never completly netdecked a deck, you have incorporated ideas that aren't completly your own. You know I'm right. Towards the end of this stage they start evolving out of this, and start finding cool ideas and tech tricks. They revert a little back to thier earlier stage, but with thier new knowledge they start putting thier ideas to good use. This leads to what i feel is the top player. Also, they start winning local tournaments, maybe a regional, and start to turn some heads.

Champions/Elite players:
To be this, you have to have a true working knowledge of the game. You start building decks without looking at the internet, and they work. You're being creative, reading every card, looking on-line for new rulings, going to SJC's and showing what you can really do. These players are the trully rare players. They can take two possible routes. Elite players, are arrogant. They don't want anything to do with the younger tiers, and tend be condescending. Champions, are good, they know thier good, but they don't flaut it. They take the time with new players and help them. They have developed a true love of the game, and feel its their duty to help the game grow.

Where do you fall? I recommend you strive to be a champion. Now matter where you fall, don't quit. You'll get to the next level. You'll grow and become better even if you are a champion/elite player. Don't tear the Netdecker's down because it won't be long(if thier encouraged) before thier champions. And watch how you treat that new player, because 2 years later they might come back and beat you as an Elite player/champion. I know, I did it. At my first tournament i was in the newbie class. After loosing to what I would call an Elite Player, he took my deck, threw it across the table, and told me to go home, he didn't have time to play noobs. Two years later I crush him on a semi-weekly basis. So to newbie's don't give up. To Champions/Elite, help the newbie's. They are the future.
 
Huh, None of the above. Its kind of constraining to fit myself into any of those areas. I could fit portions of the Netdecker, seeing as I ..am...here. And frequent other sites. However, I have moved beyoned really being influenced by other decks, except for the occasional inspiration.

However, I do not go to tournaments, I will probably never be totally on top of my rulings (Some that I knew, I forget. Darn vicious cycle!) I cannot just build every idea independantly.

I am a casualist. I live in Guatemala, outside of the sanctioned circuits. Its like a wild west no mans land of yu gi oh. Traditional format, ancient and often incorrect rulings fly by in all directions. Sets are generally 3-4 months behind what is released up north in the US.

I go occasionally to trade, play a casual duel and to check up on the organizer of the local shop, to see if he needs any help of advice concerning rulings that I might know about.

But I am not elite, leet, or 1337. I am not a champion. Im an old fart. I sit there on the front porch with La Jinn, talking about the good old days of the depression where no rules were aGreed upon, but everyone was new to the territory.

Maybe Im retired?
 
I'm in the area of "starting to get good" yet I'm learning more advanced rulings than actual gameplay skills. The part of me being such a horrible player and an awesome deckbuilder is annoying. The judge aspect of my YGO career has helped my gameplay stay at a moderate level. It does frustrate me sometimes how more experienced players in gameplay get those amazing starting hands yet have horrible game mechanic knowledge.

I've strived to (when I'm not cranky that is) to be a helpful player/judge to everyone. I give advice when asked and don't seek any recognition for my services. I label myself more as a valuable resource for ruling questions as well as some original deck strategies that have worked for me or that I think could work for the person's deck that they want help with.

Like a lot of people, I get into those moods where I just don't want to help anyone. These are the times I get cranky and irrated with the most simple of questions.

I'll agree to a certain level of understanding that the way you protrayed certain types of players with generic titles was a nice job. I'm not afraid to admit I suck at playing this game. I judge probably ten times as much as a play. Which is a considerable amount since I play once and a while.

And the title "Netdecker" applies to EVERYONE. So I don't know if that title is really that accurate but it doesn't really matter I guess.

Excellant job. In a way you should be glad that Max Suffridge isn't on Netrepâ„¢. xD He'd flame you for sure. Because he falls under the title, "Aggrogant Elite Player" in my book.

True Champions are leaders. A couple of champions I know of on this site are these people, and yes I do look up to you guys. =)

John Danker
Chaosruler
Dillie-O
Skey
Antony
Andrew (forgot what his username is)
Digital Jedi
DaGuy

Those are just the ones off the top of my mind. You guys kept me into the game and helped me learn more. Thank you. =)

*Goes to his class, Basic Design...*
 
<smiles /> Well, I thank you Tkwiget for the compliment. Just add a capital O at the end of the handle, like "O" my goodness he loves Kozaky?! I think I'm in the same boat as you are. I seem to be able to get some great...er...crazy ideas for decks, but I'm learning that my dueling skills are medium grade. I'm happy when I can get some combos going, but I think part of growing into that "champion" phase is knowing your personal style and making sure your deck supports that.

In working on my "signature" deck, I'm learning I'm a heavy combo man and prone to overextend myself. While I don't think that pulls me out of the dueling circuit, it does force me to learn constraint and build decks that will reward or protect me for going out as such.

A lot like ByserSquid, I feel disconnected from the "dueling" scene at times. I do far more judging and unfortunatley don't have a comic store/card store to call a "home" yet, so that leaves me with digital options.

Maybe we'll add another category to cover that middle ground where you've figured out how to put some decks together, but you still need to get more dueling experience under your belt and make it match your style. 8^D
 
Well I don't know what to consider myself out of the above, I was one of the two when the game first started, but who wasn't? I have net-decked in my early years of playing the game in order to get better. But now being apart of the deck team at ITTD, and helping others at tourny's learn how to play through the "Become a better duelist" program, I don't know, I hvae played since the begining and have decks going through my brain constantly, figureing out there strategic areas etc... but that's just my opinion of myself...
 
It's a lot like one of the more recent Basic Design assignments I've had in college. You don't know exactly how well an idea is going to turn out until you actually test it. If people don't test out strange card selections like Fairy Box in a Zombie deck or Windstorm in a Fiend deck, how do you know if the idea will work or not? You don't, so why not try something new for a change?

I ask that to a lot of people and they can never give me a straight forward answer. Always something along the lines of, "I just want to win.". That isn't really an original answer. If you want to win, why not try something new? If your current deck concept isn't working then adjust it or try something completely new. I've told/preached this to my local players countless times when they complain to me and ask why their deck isn't working.

Even more annoying is when I suggest cards to people that they wouldn't normally use in their deck. They reject the suggestion completely without giving the concept any further thought. Without trying to see if Fairy Box, Magic Drain, and Raigeki Break work in your Warrior, Zombie, Fiend, Spellcaster, Beatdown, etc. deck isn't openning your mind to new bold possibilities.

It really isn't rocket science when it comes to what the winner of the next SJC will run. Aggro, with three Cyber Dragon, D. D. Assailant, and Spirit Reapers as the main focus of the monsters. That is boring. Trust me, very boring.

Why not give the deck some flavor by adding in some King Tiger Wanghu, Enraged Battle Ox, Berserk Gorilla, Bazoo the Soul-Eater, and possible Dimension Fusion as well. It opens up to a pretty decent chance in getting a successful tournament winning deck. Without change in the way people play, there wouldn't be much to the game.
 
I've never copied a deck in my life, but if someone plays a combo against me that I like, or uses a card a certain way that I like, I will try incorporate it into my existing play. I guess that makes me a netdecker according to this article?

At the same time, I guess I can also be described (strictly from this article) as an "elite" gamer. Although I'm never rude to anyone (I try to be polite and civilised), I don't have the patience to help people with their game. I don't see it as my responsiblity. I rarely talk or joke to my opponent during duels, but this isn't a case of thinking I'm better than him - I just like to focus on the game at hand. Though I must confess I have quite a few times rolled my eyes and sighed when I read that I was facing someone at a tournment that I think isn't really a match for me. I don't get any satisfaction of beating someone who doesn't even put up a fight. I'm still nice and friendly to most people inbetween or after duels.
 
I'm the player that loves to let the kids beat me so they can brag how they beat a Judge! :king:.....yeah..that's why I lose all the time...

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!!...:D
 
im neither.

i would say, that a best place to fit me and a few others would be more of an Engen.

preaty much we look into cards in and out, we get these crazy inspirations during the middle of the night, we think of other things and have other stuff todo, but in our free time we use it to find all sorts of uses of cards that are current in the card pool. We look at the OCG to find out more insight on future cards and how to use them, we study how the game is played in other areas. We break metas and we study metas. We hang around online sites during our free time to discuss combinations, rulings, cards in general. We give odd ball suggestions and give them with reason.

I would say thats mostly everybody on COG online. :)
 
Hmm... I'm also having trouble fitting myself into a certain catagory. I want to say that I'm a near-champion, but I'm not a Netdecker either, since I make all of my decks based on my taste and style... And card bias, of course. (What's life without card bias, after all? ^.^ Neo the Magic Swordsman ROXX!!)

Like Tkwidget, I'd consider quite a few people on this site champions... Namely the moderators, but seriously, I think everyone on this site is one. And I'm not just saying that or anything, because I truly think that we all have extreme potential and capacity to be the best, if not already. Personally, I think being a champion is not all about skill, but more about knowledge and compassion for the game and its players.
 
krazykidpsx said:
im neither.

i would say, that a best place to fit me and a few others would be more of an Engen.

preaty much we look into cards in and out, we get these crazy inspirations during the middle of the night, we think of other things and have other stuff todo, but in our free time we use it to find all sorts of uses of cards that are current in the card pool. We look at the OCG to find out more insight on future cards and how to use them, we study how the game is played in other areas. We break metas and we study metas. We hang around online sites during our free time to discuss combinations, rulings, cards in general. We give odd ball suggestions and give them with reason.

I would say thats mostly everybody on COG online. :)

OK, can I change my answer?

Im like him! *points to Krazykidpsx*
 
krazykidpsx said:
im neither.

i would say, that a best place to fit me and a few others would be more of an Engen.

preaty much we look into cards in and out, we get these crazy inspirations during the middle of the night, we think of other things and have other stuff todo, but in our free time we use it to find all sorts of uses of cards that are current in the card pool. We look at the OCG to find out more insight on future cards and how to use them, we study how the game is played in other areas. We break metas and we study metas. We hang around online sites during our free time to discuss combinations, rulings, cards in general. We give odd ball suggestions and give them with reason.

I would say thats mostly everybody on COG online. :)

...I agree with you krazykidpsx, believe me there are nights that I can sleep thinking how can I upgrade some of my decks and thinking how I gonna make to get the cards that I need to improve a deck or for made a new one, that of course will by fuctional and made by my own =)...
 
Well, I dont know what kind I am, I hate when some of my friends copy the cards that are working for me, (of curse that also can work for them), I hate that in to a point that I remove somoe cards that have been copied from my deck and try to repalce them with other, I dont copy any decks on the Internet, but I really base my constructio of my deck in web tools, like the Ronning, or some reviews to see if I missed something, or if Im already using a card, whats the general experience of our fellow players.
And.....I have to admit.....I run a 59 card deck, 15 side deck, 5 fusion deck (dragon-spellcaster-dark-LV), and some of the cards remain in my deck not for its functionallity, but I have some.....how can I put it........history....or attachment to them. (I run 3.....yes....3 BEWDs....lol) I know its kinda foolish but my next fushion monster I hope will be The Ultimate BEWD, (I think whith Dragon´s Mirrror it can be playable, an if I get crazy enough....the Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡.....so call me foolish.....call me crazy, but this deck is only getting form.
 
As many of you have stated, its hard to classify yourself in one of those groups. I'd like to consider myself a champion, but I'm not sure. I've been told I have a great knowledge of the game and that my playing skills rival some of the best in my area. I also try to help out the newer people at the tourney I go to. I've lost count of how many times I've sat down with someone I just beat and have helped them "rebuild" their deck, whether it be by offering tips on different combos that could help or by giving them cards that I feel could help them out. At the moment however, I feel that I'm in the "netdecker" group. I've been in this group since I started running chaos earlier this year, but with the ban of BLS I also feel that I'm starting to come out of this group, working on some fun, yet competitive decks. I guess that would sorta fit me in krazykid's engineer group. Overall however, I can't clearly define where I fit in with the posted groups.
 
Well, in all honesty, according to the guidelines, I'm apparently a "Champion".:dope: I've never netdecked in my entire career as a duelist, nor have I ever ceased from striving to be absolutely unique and creative. I'm always looking at rulings (RONIN is my best friend) in order to perfect my gameplay and overall knowledge. I know that I am pretty good, but I never thought I could ever get labelled a "Champion". I just think it's kinda "neat".:p
 
Personally, I really like the term that Disney uses for it's builders....."Imagineer"

While I can usually hold my own with about anyone I tend to judge fair too much and play too little so I tend to make "rusty" mistakes that show it.

My usual saving graces are that nobody ever has the slightest idea what I might be playing that day since I'm constantly changing completely what type of deck I play and it's usually a well built unusual deck that most other players will have trouble knowing how to deal with.

I often end up 3rd or 4th in a tournment because I don't play many decks that have the consistancy it takes to win tournaments. I often get the compliment though that, "You were the toughest match I had all day" when I do lose <soft smile> It's a nice compliment, not one I'm sure I often deserve....but I'll take it!

The reason I use "Imagineer" is because I can't think of a more satisfying moment in a tournament as when you hear these words come from your opponent's mouth....."NO WAY!"...or, "You MUST be joking me....I haven't seen THAT card played in a tournament EVER...and it just kicked my reart!"
 
I'm not sure where I fall. I'm definately not a champion/elite player yet, far from it...but I do win occasionally and am well respected. I do get the "oh no, I have to play him?" comment on occasion, which is always surprising.

I'm known more as the guy with the fiend deck or the guy with the Horus deck (my most succesful overall).

I gues I'm in the perpetual "just about to get good" category - never have quite enough time to truly test out a great deck that works, never really enough time (or enough attention span, lol) to stick with a deck idea.

I know that if I had the time to put into the game I could be one of those elite/champions (I can now beat my "mentor/rival" if you nearly half the time, and he's qualified for Nationals) - I would definately be on the champion side of things - but alas the darn real world keeps butting in.

Enough rambling, time to get back to the desert of the real.

And I have no idea where that Matrix quote came from.

Time for sleep.
 
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