[Yet Another] Inferno Reckless Summon Question.

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You can only activate this card when 1 monster with an ATK of 1500 points or less is Special Summoned to your side of the field while there is a face-up monster on your opponent's side of the field. Special Summon all cards with the same name as the Summoned monster from your hand, Deck, and Graveyard in face-up Attack Position. Your opponent selects 1 monster on their side of the field and Special Summons all cards with that same name from their hand, Deck, and Graveyard.
If the first Sentence [in Red] is the is the Activaton requirement.

Can I chain a card like Raigeki Break to the activation of Inferno Reckless Summon so on resolution my opponent won't be able to special summon?

What would happens I chain Torrential Tribute? Will I be able to special Summon?

Will Reckless Summon check the name of my monster on activation or at resolution?
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Blackscorp said:
I need your input in this.

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You can only activate this card when 1 monster with an ATK of 1500 points or less is Special Summoned to your side of the field while there is a face-up monster on your opponent's side of the field. Special Summon all cards with the same name as the Summoned monster from your hand, Deck, and Graveyard in face-up Attack Position. Your opponent selects 1 monster on their side of the field and Special Summons all cards with that same name from their hand, Deck, and Graveyard.
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If the first Sentence [in Red] is the is the Activaton requirement.

Can I chain a card like Raigeki Break to the activation of Inferno Reckless Summon so on resolution my opponent won't be able to special summon?
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Yes, provided they have no other face-up monster to select and use for it's resolution. Otherwise they could possibly pick a differnt monster.

What would happens I chain Torrential Tribute? Will I be able to special Summon?

Will Reckless Summon check the name of my monster on activation or at resolution?
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My guess would be it already know what was summoned. Hmm..., That would mean that now you'd get to Special Summon that same copy that Torrential destroyed. Interesting. I would be curious to know what our resident Level 3 judges think.
 
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Not really that hard to find out Digitial, but an interesting scenario. =)

Link 1: Inferno Reckless Summon
Link 2: Torrential Tribute

Since Inferno Reckless Summon would be summoning "all" copies of the monster you just Special Summoned, then that means ALL copies are going to get Special Summoned. This includes the copy Torrential Tribute destroyed as it's one of those "copies" in "all" of them isn't it?

So yes, you'd be able to summon the monster that was destroyed by Torrential Tribute in that instance. =)
 
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My thoughts on this, seeing as there are no rulings even remotely close to this anywhere...lol.

The 1st scenario will resolve w/o issue since the activation requirement was met. The opponent simply chooses their monster during the resolution of "Inferno Reckless Summon". If they don't have a monster anymore, then they don't get to summon. You would still get to Special Summon.

The 2nd scenario will not resolve properly because when "Inferno Reckless Summon" attempts to resolve, there is not a reference monster on the field anymore to compare the name to. I would also go as far as saying the entire effect would disappear.


Just my thoughts.
 
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My other post was pretty bad..lol

Can I chain a card like Raigeki Break to the activation of Inferno Reckless Summon so on resolution my opponent won't be able to special summon?
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If they have no monster upon resolution to select, they can't summon now can they? No, they can't, but you still get to.

What would happens I chain Torrential Tribute? Will I be able to special Summon?

Will Reckless Summon check the name of my monster on activation or at resolution?
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Yes, you'll get to summon, but your opponent won't. Also, Inferno Reckless Summon will use the name of your Special Summoned 1500 ATK or lower monster upon activation as reference and the rest of the card will resolve from there as much as it can.
 
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according to skey, it seems that it would check upon resolution. But I tend to agree with Tkwiget's idea that the monster special Summoned initially is only needed to reference for IRS during activation.
 
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squid said:
according to skey, it seems that it would check upon resolution. But I tend to agree with Tkwiget's idea that the monster special Summoned initially is only needed to reference for IRS during activation.
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That's what I was thinking at first, but skey23 planted some doubts on me...

In fact the second sentence is too ambiguous and could be taken either way.
 
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I'm basing my answer to the "Torrential Tribute" scenario off this ruling....

"If "Book of Moon" is chained to "Cyber Laser Dragon's" effect to turn either the targeted monster or "Cyber Laser Dragon" face-down, its effect will not resolve because both monsters' ATK / DEF values can no longer be compared."

If the summoned monster is no longer on the field, then "Inferno Reckless Summon" cannot compare the name of the Summoned monster to the name(s) of the monsters in the Graveyard, Hand, and/or Deck.

I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just explaining my thought pattern.
 
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Your forgetting one thing. Stat comparing is one thing and successful summonings are another thing. IRS activates in response to a Special Summoning being successful that you perform. Once that summoning is considered successful you use the reference of that monster's name for IRS's summoning multiple copies of that monster's name from your hand, deck and graveyard.


Now look at this interesting scenario.

Player A has a face up Witch's Apprentice and Spirit Reaper in attack position with a face down Torrential Tribute. Player B has a Freed the Brave Wanderer in the Graveyard with 2 LIGHT monsters. Player B also has a Premature Burial in hand with Inferno Reckless Summon Set on the field.. Player B is the Turn Player.

Player B activates Premature Burial by paying 800 life points. Targets Freed the Brave Wanderer in the Graveyard and Special Summons him. Witch's Apprentice's continuous effect decreases Freed's attack by 400 points. This reduces it to the 1500 and lower range for IRS. Player B now responds to the Special Summoning with his set Inferno Reckless Summon. Player A chains Torrential Tribute.

Link 1: Inferno Reckless Summon
Link 2: Torrential Tribute

Torrential blows all the monsters up and Inferno Reckless summons all copies of Freed the Brave Wanderer onto the field. Player A gets to summon nothing. Since he never gets to pick a monster for that part of the effect during resolution.

So both examples that the original question is asking for an answer is..."Yes, you can activate Inferno Reckless Summon because the activation requirements are correct and aren't dependant upon the resolution to be 100% fullfilled like with cards such as The Shallow Grave or Creature Swap." However, that's just my opinion and normally takes me three cracks of a whip to get the answer worded correctly for me. XD

I'm probably wrong though. =P
 
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