A few questions about divine wrath

[paladinforce]

From what I know, divine wrath can negate the special summon effect of cards such as vampire lord.
The question is: If vampire lord is "negated" and destroyed by this card, Can Vampire lord return to the field since it have been destroyed in the very same standby phase?

 

[luffy]

No I believe. Its effect is already negated and hence, there is no way to special summon him back during your standby phases.

 

[paladinforce]

And what about the solemn judgement thing?. Even if this negate the summoning of vampire lord, he manages to get on the field at the next standby phase.

 

[luffy]

It negates the summoning not the effect.

 

[paladinforce]

Thanks man  .

And divine wrath can negate effects such as sinister serpent, kuriboh and all that cards that works outside of the field?

 

[luffy]

Yo can do that to Kuriboh(the discard effect to prevent battle damage), but maybe not Sinister. The reason is I am also not very clear. But as for Exodia, Divine Wrath is a definite NONO. All I know is that its effect cannot stop continuous effect such as effect of Jinzo or Spell Canceler.

 

[paladinforce]

Jinzo and canceller are clear for me. Unlike sinister, they are continious effects, sinister is a standby retrieval, like vampire, standby summon

 

[luffy]

Oh ya... You are right, I've forgotten that Vampire Lord's effect is continuous. :bishop: Sorry. In this case, I had better go do some research, and give you a right one as soon as possible.

 

[paladinforce]

Ok. I'll wait for it

 

[krazykidpsx]

sinister gets its effect negated for that turn, next turn during standby you can get it. considering your opponent doesnt have another devine wrath.

its just like Vlord, the effect gets negates, the only downside to vlord is that it has only 1 window of opportunity were sinister has multiples, so if it gets negated in 1 turn, next turn you can pick it up. get negated then the turn after, negated again then the turn after that.

 

[luffy]

sinister gets its effect negated for that turn, next turn during standby you can get it. considering your opponent doesnt have another devine wrath.

its just like Vlord, the effect gets negates, the only downside to vlord is that it has only 1 window of opportunity were sinister has multiples, so if it gets negated in 1 turn, next turn you can pick it up. get negated then the turn after, negated again then the turn after that.

So you are saying that V Lord's effect cannot be activated(return to the field) during the next standby phase?

 

[krazykidpsx]

no cause its effect got negated.

see unlike sinister serpent were it says that if there exists 1 sinister serpent in the graveyard etc...

vlord doesnt it says when it get destroyed by an opponent card effect.

problem here is that Vlord is getting its effects negated.

were sinister's effect activates again during the next standby or same standby (when used with mirage of nightmare)

 

[luffy]

No I believe. Its effect is already negated and hence, there is no way to special summon him back during your standby phases.

So is the content(ruling) in the above quotation right?

 

[krazykidpsx]

vlord, yes because its effect got negated.

its true it got destroyed but when it got destroyed it got its effect whiped off.

it got turned into a normal monster preaty much.

serpent the same deal, problem is that next turn like i said, itll trigger its effect again.

 

[luffy]

Ok. I take yours(and me intial ) as the right answer and cease the research

 

[krazykidpsx]

its not just mine though, i think there is a thread were we all discussed this.