Accumulated Fortune?

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SPK

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Hey, I just wanted to clarify something here:

Accumulated Fortune:

Activate only as Chain Link 4 or higher. Draw 2 cards. You cannot activate this card if multiple cards/effects with the same name are in that Chain.

Now, with that said, if a player had 1 Secret Barrel, 1 Ojama Trio, 1 Just Desserts and 2 copies of Accumulated Fortune face down on their side of the field, could they chain the 3 cards listed, and finish with chaining the two copies of Accumulated Fortune in that chain? Or would the bolded part in the card's text as I listed above prevent that from happening? I believe that it would not allow the player to be able to activate the 2nd Accumulated Fortune, but I want to get some more feedback to clarify on this.
 
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How it's worded has a lot to do with it. It says you cannot activate it, so that means before you even activate it you check the chain for the multiple effects of the same name. Once you've activated it, it's activated, its own effect can't stop it no matter what's in the chain at that point, but you can't activate "Chain Strike", "Chain Healing", "Chain Detonation", "Accumulated Fortune"s, etc. after that however, because of the same effect.

Like I said, it's how its worded. If it were worded "You cannot activate this card if multiple cards/effects with the same name would be in that Chain", then it would be different and prevent if from activating itself because it is the future tense of is, or in this case, are.

Basically, it using the present tense means it checks the field before being activated.
 
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Ok, what brought up this question was from reading the report of the final match of the last SJC, and this was what I saw:

During the end phase, Jasmin activated Ojama Trio, Poison of the Old Man, Pigeonholing Books of Spell, and 2 copies of Accumulated Fortune to draw 4 cards, rearrange his top 3 cards, deal 800 damage and stick Cesar with some Ojamas.

As far as I know, once the first Accumulated Fortune was activated, the 2nd one couldn't, since 1 Accumulated Fortune was already on the chain...now unless I'm missing something, that seems completely wrong.
 
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Well never mind, was checking through the rulings, and came across this for Chain Strike:

You can activate a second "Chain Strike" if 1 "Chain Strike" is already on that chain. However, no further "Chain Strikes" can be activated in that same chain after that.

I still think it's kinda odd, how they can reason such a ruling given the wording...but whatever, gives me a reason to rebuild my Burn deck once more :D.
 
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During the end phase, Jasmin activated Ojama Trio, Poison of the Old Man, Pigeonholing Books of Spell, and 2 copies of Accumulated Fortune to draw 4 cards, rearrange his top 3 cards, deal 800 damage and stick Cesar with some Ojamas.

Consider everything up to the first Accumulated Fortune. Each card in the chain has a different effect. A second Accumulated Fortune is activated. This is a legal move because now there are multiple cards with the same name in that chain. A third Accumulated Fortune could not be activated because of the multiple ones that are already there.
 
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SPK said:
I still think it's kinda odd, how they can reason such a ruling given the wording...but whatever, gives me a reason to rebuild my Burn deck once more :D.
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At the point that Ojama Trio, Poison of the Old Man, Pigeonholing Books of Spell, and 1 copy of Accumulated Fortune are activated, look back at your chain. What do you see? Accumulated Fortune insists that it can't be activated if there are multiple cards of the same name in that chain. So what's on the chain at this point?

1 copy of Ojama Trio
1 copy of Poison of the Old Man
1 copy of Pigeonholing Books of Spell
1 copy of Accumulated Fortune

Now think about the effect text. "You cannot activate this card if multiple cards/effects with the same name are in that Chain." Are their multiple copies of the same card on the chain? Because I only see 1 of each. For what reason could you not activate Accumulated Fortune?

Just remember, this particular effect doesn't say "You cannot have multiple cards/effects with the same name are in that Chain." It says "You cannot activate this card if multiple cards/effects with the same name are in that Chain." If your looking back on the chain and seeing only 1 copy of each card, then your activation requirements are being met.
 
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It doesn't even matter if the first accumulated fortune is chain line 2, and the second one is being activated chain link 6. As long as all of the cards which are chain link 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 are uniquely named, it can legally be activated. But, if you had a set chain strike at that time, you could not activate it as chain link 7 because two cards named accumulated fortune exist in the chain.
 
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roadhouse007 said:
It doesn't even matter if the first accumulated fortune is chain line 2, and the second one is being activated chain link 6. As long as all of the cards which are chain link 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 are uniquely named, it can legally be activated. But, if you had a set chain strike at that time, you could not activate it as chain link 7 because two cards named accumulated fortune exist in the chain.
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Well, in Accumulated Fortune's case, it couldn't be Chain Link 2 because it can only be activated as Chain Link 4 or higher. But why split hairs? :skull
 
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Digital Jedi said:
Well, in Accumulated Fortune's case, it couldn't be Chain Link 2 because it can only be activated as Chain Link 4 or higher. But why split hairs? :skull
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Didn't even look at the card. Just knew that it, chain strike, etc. Work like that. Oops. Well then link 4 and 6. lol.
 
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