Alien deck, help/rate extra

kifoghorn

kifoghorn

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Alien deck, help/suggest

Monsters: 23
Tribute:
Cosmic Horror Gangi'el
Flying Saucer Muusik'i

Non-Tribute:
Alien Grey
Alien Grey
Alien Grey
Alien Hunter
Alien Hunter
Alien Hunter
Alien Infiltrator
Alien Infiltrator
Alien Infiltrator
Alien Mars
Alien Mars
Alien Mars
Alien Skull
Alien Skull
Alien Warrior
Alien Warrior
Alien Warrior
Mirage Dragon
Mirage Dragon
Morphing Jar #2
Sangan

Spells: 9
Brain Control
Brain Control
Brain Control
Corruption Cell "A"
Corruption Cell "A"
Corruption Cell "A"
Heavy Storm
Mystical Space Typhoon
Nobleman of Crossout

Traps: 8
Brainwashing Beam
Brainwashing Beam
Brainwashing Beam
Crop Circles
Crop Circles
Crop Circles
Orbital Bombardment
Orbital Bombardment

What you think?
 
I believe it's the potential for field dominance he is referring to. Alien mother only needs to kill two monsters and then you no longer need to summon each turn. Rather you can hold other cards in reserve should lightining vortex or mirror force be activated. It also can force your opponent to extend to stop the field dominance. Only my opinion though. My son runs one as a fun deck with two or three alien mothers and it is a pain to beat.
 
I am not sure about the crop circles, they seem wrong.

crop circle +trib lv4 +lv3 to bring out cosmic
crop circle +trib lv3 +lv2 to bring out flying

So which 3 of these would you add;

MONSTERS
alien mother
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TRAPS
fake trap
waboku
sakuretsu (possible have 3)
reinforcements
straight flush​
SPELL
Banner of courage​
 
Good idea about removing the Crop Circles. Remember, "Alien" monsters are monsters with "Alien" in their card name. Neither Cosmic Horror Gangi'el nor Flying Saucer Muusik'i have "Alien" in their card name, therefore neither of them are "Alien" monsters (and so cannot be Special Summoned by Crop Circles).

I'm not sure about the presence of Orbital Bombardment (unless you want to get rid of your Alien monster at the same time). Flying Saucer Muusik'i too, I'm not sure about, but keep it if you find it helps (being a Tribute monster, I'm not too sure it would).

I also question the lack of Alien Psychic (great stall) and "A" Cell Scatter Burst (for lots of extra A-Counters). And you might as well throw in an Alien Mother while you're at it.

Since it's an Alien Deck, I'd imagine it should be all about the A-Counters. So get lots of them in there. There are a few more Alien support cards coming in FOTB ("A" Cell Multiplication Device, Different Space - "A" Zone and Mass Hypnosis) that will do good work.
 
Alien Mother is currently the best way to use A-counters. You won't have to worry too much about Monarchs, due to a single A-counter bringing their stats down to 2100.

Crop Circles is a good support card. The main way to abuse it is to summon the same Alien monster. Like attacking twice, or avoiding destruction by sakuretsu or something.
 
KittenGuru said:
Crop Circles is a good support card. The main way to abuse it is to summon the same Alien monster. Like attacking twice, or avoiding destruction by sakuretsu or something.
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Heh. I didn't actually think of that.

Yes, Crop Circles can actually be a lot better than I first thought.

Levels
1: Alien Psychic
2: Alien Grey = Alien Infiltrator
3: Alien Mars
4: Alien Hunter = Alien Skull = Alien Warrior
6: Alien Mother
And additions of lower Level monsters.

Good call. Have 2 of them in your Deck, perhaps even 3.
 
kifoghorn said:
Monsters: 21
Tribute: 5
3 Alien Mother
2 Cosmic Horror Gangi'el

Non-Tribute: 16
3 Alien Grey
3 Alien Hunter
3 Alien Skull
3 Alien Warrior
1 Morphing Jar
1 Sangan
1 Treeborn Frog

Spells: 10
2 Brain Control
2 "A" Cell Scatter Burst
1 Heavy Storm
1 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Nobleman of Crossout
3 Smashing Ground

Traps: 9
2 Brainwashing Beam
2 Crop Circles
2 Solomn Judgement
3 Sakueretsu Armor

What you think?
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Hope it helps.
 
Maruno said:
Explain to me how D.D. Crow would do anything. Crop Circles searches for a monster in the Deck, and counts Level stars of the monsters when they're sent. Nothing to do with the Graveyard.
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Depends on when the monster is being referenced. We already have a couple of effects where if the monster being referenced is no longer where you sent it, you can't fulfill the conditions of the effect. But I don't think that's the case here.
 
Using a laptop networked to my desktop, my alien deck duelled my armed_harpies.

I found the alien deck is screwed if there aren't any a-counters out. Which means it needs more cards to thin the deck or to search for Corruption Cell "A", plus cards to get it back from the graveyard. But there are none that I could find.
 
Do you mean "your" Alien Deck as written in the first post of this thread? Because you're not making the best job of your resources there.


"A" Cell Scatter Burst will give you lots of extra A-Counters, at the small cost of destroying 1 Alien monster on the field. Cosmic Horror Gangi'el gives you an extra A-Counter per turn to work with, and can be 1 Tribute. You already have other Alien monsters that produce A-Counters.

Also check out these cards, soon to be released in FOTB:

"A" Cell Multiplication Device is a Continuous Spell Card that, during each of your Standby Phases, puts 1 A-Counter on an opponent's monster. Slow but steady.

Different Space - "A" Zone is a Field Spell Card that lowers your opponent's monsters' ATK and DEF by 300 whenever they battle an Alien monster. It's like they have 1 (more) A-Counter on them without them actually having it.

Mass Hypnosis) (Continuous Trap Card) can be 3x Brainwashing Beam, but just for one turn.
 
I managed to get my hands on 1 alien mother and 3 'A' Cell scatter burst.

Yea, I will have to check the FOTB when it comes out. Anyone know when?

Not sure about Alien Psychic, will depend on how well this deck can get the counters out on the field.

As KittenGuru has explained, it seems ok, but I am beginning to dislike traps...

Probably need some more sleep on this deck...

Count: 40

Monsters: 20
Tribute:
Alien Mother
Cosmic Horror Gangi'el
Flying Saucer Muusik'i

Non-Tribute:
Alien Grey
Alien Grey
Alien Grey
Alien Hunter
Alien Hunter
Alien Hunter
Alien Infiltrator
Alien Infiltrator
Alien Infiltrator
Alien Mars
Alien Mars
Alien Mars
Alien Skull
Alien Skull
Alien Warrior
Alien Warrior
Alien Warrior

Spells: 12
"A" Cell Scatter Burst
"A" Cell Scatter Burst
"A" Cell Scatter Burst
Brain Control
Brain Control
Brain Control
Corruption Cell "A"
Corruption Cell "A"
Corruption Cell "A"
Heavy Storm
Mystical Space Typhoon
Nobleman of Crossout

Traps: 8
Brainwashing Beam
Brainwashing Beam
Brainwashing Beam
Ceasefire
Negate Attack
Orbital Bombardment
Orbital Bombardment
Waboku
 
Maruno said:
Remember, "Alien" monsters are monsters with "Alien" in their card name. Neither Cosmic Horror Gangi'el nor Flying Saucer Muusik'i have "Alien" in their card name, therefore neither of them are "Alien" monsters (and so cannot be Special Summoned by Crop Circles).
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Summoned Skull is an archfiend monster, but his name doesn't include it....I thought that was the same type of thing with Cosmic Horror and Flying Saucer....

Big Willy Style
 
No, all monsters now have suitable names. In the past, such as with Archfiend, Amazoness and Guardian monsters, some cards just weren't named properly (e.g. Summoned Skull, Amazon Archer, Celtic Guardian). Nowadays, it seems mistakes have been learnt from.

Nowadays, if a card says it only affects certain monsters, it very explicitly means that. Just because Flying Saucer Muusik'i and Cosmic Horror Gangi'el support the theme, doesn't make them Aliens. If it also affects other cards (or doesn't affect a card that has the right name by accident), the card will specifically say so (see Arsenal Summoner or Dramatic Rescue). Archfiends are a bit different even to this, because it's simply implied that you know what cards are Archfiends (in reality, it's because there are so many Archfiend cards without "Archfiend" in their name that it's silly printing out a long list of them on every card that affects them).

Because of the crackdown on stupid texts in recent times, if you know what the terminology means ("a "xx" monster" means "a monster with "xx" in its name") then you'll have a much better standing than most people who fail to learn it (despite being told so).

I'd much prefer a bout of name-changing (like Trial of Hell, After Genocide), but it simply won't happen. Note that I wouldn't like to see a bout exactly like those two cards, because they were censorship and by definition a stupid thing to do.
 
Big Willy Style said:
Summoned Skull is an archfiend monster, but his name doesn't include it....I thought that was the same type of thing with Cosmic Horror and Flying Saucer....

Probally a stupid question but is'nt Skull Archfiend of Lighting Summoned Skull with an effect?
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alan75 said:
Probally a stupid question but is'nt Skull Archfiend of Lighting Summoned Skull with an effect?
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No. The two are completely different cards. They both just happen to have the same ATK/DEF/Type/Attribute/Level. As do Red Archery Girl/Toon Mermaid, and the other Toons. And Obnoxious Celtic Guard, Swift Gaia the Fierce Knight, Enraged Battle Ox, Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning (although Attribute is different there), etc.

Some monsters can be based on others, but that doesn't make them the same card.
 
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