"Appropriate" loop

furryjenny

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"Appropriate" loop

Q#1: If Player A has an Appropriate out, can Player B activate one?

Q#2: If both players have an Appropriate out, can anyone draw cards outside of the Draw Phase?

Q#3: Is this loop illegal?

(I read a ruling on Edo's YGO Page that said that two activated Appropriates would create a loop that ended when one player decked out, but if someone drew all 5 Exodia pieces during the loop they would win.)
 
Re: "Appropriate" loop

The Current Text:

Appropriate
Continous Trap
You can activate this card when your opponent draws a card outside of his/her Draw Phase. After that, each time your opponent draws cards outside of his/her Draw Phase, you draw 2 cards.
 
Re: "Appropriate" loop

Oh, well. It's still a loop if both are active and someone plays PoG or something.

The cards drawn and destroyed by Crush Card would be drawn during the Draw Phase, so that shouldn't affect Appropriate at all.
 
Re: "Appropriate" loop

what i mean is that if the appropriate loop was triggered and there's crush card affecting both palyers, and both player have 2 "Roc from the Valley of Haze" neither player would be able to deck out. (if they are considered in part of the hand)
 
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I take it back, Crush Card affects all cards drawn.

Which brings up the question: if RftVoH was drawn during an Appropriate loop, when would it be destroyed and shuffled back into the deck? Would it trigger right away, or would the opponent's draw (and then your draw, etc.) trigger first?
 
Re: "Appropriate" loop

The loop in in fact legal. If both players have an active appropriate on the field and someone draws outside of their draw phase then both players would draw untill someone decks out or acivates Mystical Space Typhoon or a set Dust Tornado.
 
Re: "Appropriate" loop

exiledforcefreak said:
The loop in in fact legal. If both players have an active appropriate on the field and someone draws outside of their draw phase then both players would draw untill someone decks out or acivates Mystical Space Typhoon or a set Dust Tornado.

Hmm, I don't think that either player could activate MST/Dust Tornado because both cards are currently resolving.

I could be wrong though so let me check...
 
Re: "Appropriate" loop

Envoy of toilet said:
Aniodia said:
No, you're right. I believe it's in the ARRJ I.2, but I'm not sure off the top of my head.

Yep its there and according to it, the "Approriate" loop cannot be interrupted (except Exodia).

Last I checked (several months ago) the appropriate loop COULD be interuted. Is it really a loop that is continuasly resolving? Methinks not. Appropriate is a continous trap card so an active appropriate will come into effect even during the resolusion of a chain (think card destruction).

What I thought happens is one active appropriate comes into effect, causing player A to draw 2 cards, then goes away... then the other appropriate comes into effect as a result of player A drawing cards and player B then has to draw 2 cards; shouldn't someone be able to activate MST or Dust Tornado in response to the event of a player drawing 2 cards?
 
Re: "Appropriate" loop

Basically, when you and your opponent are creating a chain, here is what happens:

Player A activates Spell Speed 1 effect
Player B chains with Spell Speed 2 effect
Player A chains with a Spell Speed 2 effect
Player B does not respond
Player A chains another Spell Speed 2 effect
Player B does not respond
Player A does not respond

Now, that the chain has been created, resolution takes place.

Once a chain is in its resolution, you cannot activate a card in the "middle" of it because you will not be able to start another chain until the current one is over.

Let me know if you need further clarification.
 
Re: "Appropriate" loop

This I understand. But we are talking about a continuous trap card which, in a sense, adds a condition upon the game while in play.

What is confusing to me is that appropriate has already been activated and has already resolved. An active appropriate's effect will come into play even if it is during the resolution of a chain because it is continous (think card destruction).

Also, you can't chain to a continous effect anyway, that has always confused me with cards like this. Also, If people can't chain to a continous effect how come your allowed to chain to harpie's hunting ground's effect of destroying a magic/trap card?

Shouldn't I be able to chain to appropriate's effect of drawing cards if I can chain to harpie's hunting ground's effect of destroying magic/trap cards? Does the difference lie in the fact that Harpie's Hunting Ground is a field card?

Even if that is the case, like i said before, should someone be able to activate MST between the resolution of one appropriate and the "activation" of the other?
 
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