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yes, I know. But WHY. look at the card's text, it's a "if" effect to be activated in the main phase... right? Also, it would have to be optional trigger for a spell speed one effect to be used in the battle phase.

if the card were to written the way it is played it would read as follows:

This card can only be Special Summoned by removing 1 LIGHT and 1 DARK monster in your Graveyard from play. Once, during each of your turns, only one of the following effects can be activated:
- Remove 1 monster on the field from play. If you activate this effect, this card cannot attack during this turn.
- You may attack once again in a row if this card destroys your opponent's monster as a result of battle
 
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First of all, the card's effect doesn't have to be anything. "Spirit Ryu"'s effect is an Ignition effect that can only be activated in the Battle Phase. The rules of the card can override the "general" rule of the game.

Second. Let's see... you took the "if" line and moved it from the start to the end of the same sentence which changes absolutely nothing with how it means. "Blowback Dragon" says to flip 3 coins first though in reality, you pick your target and then flip the 3 coins. That is far more egregious than the way BLS is written.
 
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densetsu_x said:
Actually, that makes it more vague and doesn't specify WHO can attack again "once in a row". Based upon that, I could decide to attack again with my 6000 ATK "Great Maju Garzett".
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lol

as for bls effect it under the same ruleing as trib and such 90% of ingoia efect are only main phase 1 or 2 since ther spell speed 1 only muit trigger effect like pally or horse lvl 8 and smillar can be active in battle step sinc there spell speed to
 
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BLS-EotB's double attack is an optional Trigger that depends upon him destorying a monster as a result of battle, since we aren't sure he'll do that, we cannot activate his effect until the battle phase, when he destroys a monster. Also, Spell Speed doesn't automatically stop it from Triggering during the Battle Phase, take Spirit Ryu, and Don Zaloog as examples.

-chaosruler
 
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Just to clear something in World championship 2005 you need to activate his effect in the main phase so it can attack again once it destroys something otherwise you cant attack again.
 
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Nak44 said:
Just to clear something in World championship 2005 you need to activate his effect in the main phase so it can attack again once it destroys something otherwise you cant attack again.
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Yes...I remember hearing about that. A friend of mine (LV3 Judge) ruled it the same way at a Regional several months back, but it was because she (yea, she) was using that ruling at Worlds 2004 as well. This is one of those rulings that UDE is trying to keep quiet, but it's slowely becoming more and more public.
 
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booo bls-eotb i would never use it even if you gave me.. i would want one but never use it.. never and its crap anyways.. everything thinks that they won cuz of their skill but nope they won because of chaos monsters.. seriously.. whoever thinks they are good and they won just because they have a good deck called a chaos deck then your sadly mistaken because you will never be good or be called champion unless you USE a creative way of winning like one of my friends did, he made a deck that is the most creative of all.. clown control it is called. Its all based around dream clown, i've never seen anyother deck like that before, and if they say that they made it before then they havent because i saw him make the deck so take that.
 
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unknownforce said:
booo bls-eotb i would never use it even if you gave me.. i would want one but never use it.. never and its crap anyways.. everything thinks that they won cuz of their skill but nope they won because of chaos monsters.. seriously.. whoever thinks they are good and they won just because they have a good deck called a chaos deck then your sadly mistaken because you will never be good or be called champion unless you USE a creative way of winning like one of my friends did, he made a deck that is the most creative of all.. clown control it is called. Its all based around dream clown, i've never seen anyother deck like that before, and if they say that they made it before then they havent because i saw him make the deck so take that.
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You mean a, "Disruption Deck" ?

LoL

Definatley a classic, an ol' school deck.

Ever seen a Mill Deck? Possibly, one of the most "original decks" made. Only a few talented players people run those, too bad I aint one of them.
 
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While I think that the videogame ruling for BLS is probably the most accurate ruling for a card effect, it still doesnt make much sense to change it for the actual TCG.

If you choose NOT to activate BLS effect in Main Phase 1, that still leaves Main Phase 2.

If you choose NOT to activate BLS effect and attack, destroying a monster during the Battle Phase, you still do not have to activate his effect to attack again since its an optional effect.

If you attack and destroy a monster during the Battle Phase, since you did not remove a monster from play, the annoucement that you are attacking twice should not be misinterpreted as, "Since you didnt say you were going to attack twice in Main Phase 1, you can't!" It should be either you remove a monster, or you attack twice, and if you choose not to attack twice, it should revert back to remove a monster.
 
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By your own statement, if you feel that is the most accurate ruling for the card, why not bring it over to the actual TCG to play him correctly. It in fact actually puts a limit on his power somewhat. In MP1, yo have to decide whether or not you would rather remove something or possibly attack twice. If you decide to activate the effect to attack twice, and a situation occurs where you don't attack with him at all (another monster of yours ran into a "Spirit Reaper") oh well, you lost the chance to remove him for this turn. It actually provides a bit more strategy with how you want to use the overpowered hulk.
 
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densetsu_x said:
By your own statement, if you feel that is the most accurate ruling for the card, why not bring it over to the actual TCG to play him correctly.
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Let me rephrase myself... What I really mean is, of all the different things you hear people say of how cards are played in the videogames versus how they play in the TCG, the videogame ruling is probably the closest to something that makes sense as it isnt like a "cheat".

If you dont chose to attack twice during Main Phase 1, then you simple can't, and that would make him less broke and probably render the effects that bring him back to the field during the Battle Phase less effective since you would have to declare if you wanted to attack twice in MP1, and that effect would be reset, so then you could only attack once, or remove a monster in MP2.

I'm all for making that official....
 
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StRiKe_NiNjA said:
You mean a, "Disruption Deck" ?

LoL

Definatley a classic, an ol' school deck.

Ever seen a Mill Deck? Possibly, one of the most "original decks" made. Only a few talented players people run those, too bad I aint one of them.
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no not a disruption deck, its a deck based on dream clown.. which hense called clown control.
 
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unknownforce said:
no not a disruption deck, its a deck based on Dream Clown.. which hense called clown control.
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I hate to tell you this but the Dream Clown Control Deck has seen many forms. I've personaly seen him as the primary force for EARTH control decks along with Giant Rat. And in ""return it to your hand" decks which stall until the Clowns come out and start blowing everything up. Quite mean. :eek:
 
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A Disruption Deck is a Clown Deck. :)

Giant Rat, Dream Clown, Stumbling, etc. Destroy 1 monster then.

Mystic Tomato, Crass Clown, Stumbling places it in defense so have it survive during your opponent's turn, then change it to attack mode and return 1 monster card on your opponent's side of the field.

Good Disruption Decks are based on battle positions change. Disruption Decks consists of card Stumbling, Enemy Controller, Level Limit - Area B, etc. basically to slow your opponent down with battle position cards, and Messenger of Peace when it comes to being necessary you to take advantage of battle position changing.

Good Disruption decks run Crass Clown, Dream Clown, Giant Rat, Mystic Tomato, Don Zaloog, Injection Fairy Lily, etc.
 
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huh? whats with the giant rat for.. i dont think he has a giant rat. But this is an origianl deck that he made.. and its a deck with maurading captain.. and its really cool. I personally made a fire princess deck after seeing rebecca using it i was soo amazed that so i made one but it didnt work.. too much magic use lol:D
 
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