Blast With Chain

[Dan the Homunculus Man]

Can Blast with Chain be activated during damage step by either attacking or defending player?
Trap and spell speed cards can only be activated during damage step if its primary function is to boost atk/def, but Blast with chains primary effect is to equip to the monster then boost attack after it has been equiped.

Also, does blast with chain get its 'Destroy any card on the field effect' if it was destroyed by another card effect but was not equiped to a monster?

 

[chaosruler]

1) Yes, you can activate it during the Damage Step

2) It must be an Equip at the time to be destroyed

-chaosruler

 

[mikoal]

so if u were to chain MST to the activation (activation equips blast) and destroys the equip magic it DOES NOT get to destroy any card on the field?

 

[mikoal]

Also i played an opponent that used gearfried to attack me and used Blast with Chain to destroy my monster, we were discussing if i could stop that.......

basically, when he delcared attack,i allowed the attack, since the Blast with Chain is a card that changes the atk/def of a monster it can be activated during DAMAGE step, therefore he activates his blast on gearfried, and the only cards that can activate are other cards that changes the atk/def. or spell speed 3 cards.......... so since he activated blast during damage step, does that mean, my Ring of Destruction, Raigeki Break etc..... cant stop it?!?!

because if blast was equipped with anotehr monster, all itll do it boost the atk, but since its gearfried, it destroys the mosnter....so im not sure..........


basically

Player A declare attack with gearfried on my Pyramid Turtle
Player B says ok (assuming his turtle will bring V-lord out)
then since the battle is allowed
Player A activates Blast with Chain during damage step

Can player B stop Player A with Ring of Destruction or other cards??

or does damage step even occur? because there is no moster to calculate damage with after gearfried's Blast with Chain went trhough?

 

[Dan the Homunculus Man]

Why can Blast with Chain be activated during step? If it can be activated then that means Blast with Chain and gearfried is invincible.

 

[mikoal]

thats quite interesting, because i always thought Blast with Chain can be activated damage, and it probably still can......but.....if u read through the sticky and try to fit blast on the list, it does not fit......

because.....part a says

"Spell and Trap cards that directly modify the ATK or DEF of a monster."

DIRECTLY!!!
Blast with Chain firstly turns into an equip magic, then it boosts....
but this might be a play with the wordings....


wow lots of Blast with Chain quesiotns, i wonder who knows these?



a) Spell and Trap cards that directly modify the ATK or DEF of a monster. This includes cards like "Castle Walls", "Reinforcements", "Rush Recklessly", "Mirror Wall", and "Limiter Remover".


b) Monster Effects that specifically state they can be (or automatically are) activated in the Damage Step. This includes cards like "Injection Fairy Lily" and "Kinetic Soldier".

c) Multi-Trigger Effects that can negate a Spell or Trap card. This includes cards like "Dark Paladin", "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8", "Sorcerer of Dark Chaos", and "Ryu Senshi".

d) Counter Traps. This includes "Magic Jammer", "Trap Jammer", "Barrel Behind the Door", "Magic Drain", and "Divine Wrath".

e) Spell and Trap cards in response to receiving damage. This includes cards like "Inferno Tempest".

f) "Null and Void". Even though this is a Normal (Spell Speed 2) Trap card, it can be activated against the effects of "Airknight Parshath", "Sasuke Samurai #3", or "The Bistro Butcher" during the Damage Step.

 

[Dan the Homunculus Man]

Exactly Blast with Chain isn't on that list and Blast with chain the primary function is not boosting the Atk/Def as are the primary effects of the other cards on that list in number 1, all of those cards say to boost the atk/def with no prior conditions that must be met, blast with chain must be equiped before it can boost therefore primary function is equiping and not boosting and therefore should not be able to be activated during damage step.

 

[exiledforcefreak]

it can be activate during the damage step because it modifies that attack of a monster. I personally ever understood why Blast with Chain had to be an equip card when destroyed in order to get off it's second effect considering it activate in the grave

 

[Digital Jedi]

With the Game Mechanics more closley emulating the Japanese Mechanics now (which they always should have) it may be more clear to understand how it can be activated in the Damage step.

First off Blast with Chain no longer becomes a Spell Card it remains a Trap Card, as now, we have Equip Traps in the game. The act of equiping isn't necasarily part of the effect just how equips function and happens after activation. Even if it is part if the effect, that doesn't limit it to outside the damage step because it is specifically modifieing ATK. Nowhere was it said that in order to be used in damage step a card couldn't have an additional effect.

 

[mikoal]

so is the player allowed to use Blast with Chain with Gearfried the Iron Knight during damage step, and cards, like Book of Moon, Ring of Destruction cant be activated?

also can u MST the equipping part of blast
kinda like MSTing Premature Burial?
thus negating the destroying any card on the field effect?

 

[Digital Jedi]

so is the player allowed to use Blast with Chain with Gearfried the Iron Knight during damage step, and cards, like Book of Moon, Ring of Destruction cant be activated?

That's correct.

also can u MST the equipping part of blast
kinda like MSTing Premature Burial?
thus negating the destroying any card on the field effect?

You can't chain to just one portion of an effect, you chain to the activation of the card. So you could chain MST to activation of Blast with chain but it is still an equip card when the chain resolves. (Of course, I'm presuming the conversion to an equip is immediate and not part of BwC's resolution. Can anyone verify this?)

 

[mikoal]

i cant verify, but i remember discussing that it was instantaneous, as if there was no act of equipping it on......i believe it happens to be attached to the monster "instantaneously"?
so in this case i assume a chained, MST,Dust Tornado,Raigeki Break cannot stop Blast with Chain's effect when its equipped to gearfried,before its actually "equipped". (because cant chain to part of the effect)



you said that it is correct, so basically when an opponent accepts the battling phase, gearfried is safe to say at a high success rate of destroying the monster and thus having his attack hit u directly?
i ask because, does damage step even occur? there is a change in monster....can u actually do that?

true, Blast with Chain's effect changes the atk/def, but gearfried is using it to destroy mosnters......

 

[densetsu_x]

1 thing to note. Presuming "Blast with Chain" can be activated in the Damage Step and that is when you do activate it, your opponent could not chain "Mystical Space Typhoon" at that time in an attempt to destroy it before it had a chance to resolve because "Mystical Space Typhoon" (and "Dust Tornado" and "Raigeki Break") all cannot be activated in the Damage Step.

 

[mikoal]

but what if they didnt activate during damage?

 

[Dan the Homunculus Man]

Ok so that means gearfried attacked my monster and during damage step blast with chain was activated to destroy my monster all during damage step does that mean the gearfried can attack me directly? if that's so that's crazy powerful

 

[DaGuyWitBluGlasses]

Ok so that means gearfried attacked my monster and during damage step blast with chain was activated to destroy my monster all during damage step does that mean the gearfried can attack me directly? if that's so that's crazy powerful

Gearfried can not attack directly. Replays may not be triggered during the damage step. If the monster is removed (early) in the damge step damage calculatins are cancelled, but the monster will be considered to have successfully attacked.

 

[mikoal]

1 thing to note. Presuming "Blast with Chain" can be activated in the Damage Step and that is when you do activate it, your opponent could not chain "Mystical Space Typhoon" at that time in an attempt to destroy it before it had a chance to resolve because "Mystical Space Typhoon" (and "Dust Tornado" and "Raigeki Break") all cannot be activated in the Damage Step.

but if he didnt activate during damage
can u chain to aatemp to destroy before its resolved?

 

[mikoal]

Gearfried can not attack directly. Replays may not be triggered during the damage step. If the monster is removed (early) in the damge step damage calculatins are cancelled, but the monster will be considered to have successfully attacked.

so basically that means it just a really safe way to destroy a monster

 

[mikoal]

summary
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1)so yes blast can be activated in damage
2)it can be activated on gearfried during damage step thus enabling gearfried to destroy the monster without much to stop it other than 1)solemn 2)devine wrath 3)7 tools......
3)so when an player A didnt want to waste their Scapegoats for instance, and take a hit from gearfried (player B), technically player B can destroy goats without having it activated, in that case, once gearfried is in damage step, his Blast with Chain is near "invincible" other that the 3 cards above can stop it, because no other damage step magic/trap cards can stop it.

i say invincible because once both players aGreed in damage step, the player with gearfried can destroy a monster or magic or trap without much to fear, because u cant Ring of Destruction, Raigeki Break ,etc it......





remaining questions
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1)so if u were to chain MST,Dust Tornado,Raigeki Break etc.... to the activation (activation equips blast) of Blast with Chain (NOT DURING DAMAGE STEP) and "destroy" Blast with Chain (an equip magic now) does it get to destroy any card on the field?


2) so after activation of BwC during daamge step on gearfried, there is no replay of battle, it is presumed that battle has gone through and that the mosnter is dead?

so i take it no one knows?

 

[Digital Jedi]

No, we're just relly sleepy. -_- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

1) Outside the damage step if you attempt to chain something that will result in Blast with Chain being destroyed, then yes, it can target another card on the field.

2) No there is no replay. Replays do not occur during the Damage Step. This is why Sasuke Samurai does not get to attack again after it destroys a monster using it's effect. (He destroys it before Damage Calculation but after you have entered the Damage Step.)