Can anyone argue that the following card serves some purpose in being played?

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Gale Dogra
Effect Monster (Insect / EARTH / 2 Stars / ATK 650 / DEF 600)

By paying 3000 Life Points, discard 1 monster from your Fusion Deck to the Graveyard.

You probably know of this card if you've played any of the GBA games. Why pay such a steep cost for an effect like that? If there was an addition to the text saying, "The selected Fusion Monster may be Special Summoned from the Graveyard", then I could somewhat understand the point in playing it. Other than that, though, it seems to be in the same category as Larvae Moth with a "no use whatsoever" effect.
 
Note that most Fusion Monsters, particularly the older ones, have no such restriction on how they can be Summoned. Just as you can use Cyber-Stein to Special Summon a Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon or Flame Swordsman, you can use Re-Fusion or Spear Cretin to Special Summon the discarded Fusion Monster without requiring it to have been properly Fusion Summoned previously.

So that text addition you suggested is unjustified, as you can do that with pretty much any Fusion Monster anyway (except E-Heroes and such with Summoning restrictions).

Many people have more ways of Summoning monsters from the Graveyard than from the Fusion Deck. However the Fusion Deck often contains much more powerful monsters (Master of Oz, Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon...). So moving one of these powerful monsters into a place you can more easily Summon it from makes sense. Gale Dogra is a quite useful card.
 
Sorry Maruno, but that is not correct. A Fusion Monster may only be Special Summoned from the Graveyard IF it was properly Fusion Summoned to begin with. It doesn't matter if it has any restrictive text on it, it was never properly Summoned to begin with.

[edit]That's not a restriction on the card, but an actual game 'mechanic' so to speak...lol.
 
Surely not? Special Summoning it is still a Special Summon, and if it can be Special Summoned by Cyber-Stein then it surely can be Special Summoned from the Graveyard. The "Fusion" part of the "I'm a Fusion Monster!" doesn't come into it, surely?
 
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This looks to me like one of those really old cards (cannot find if it was ever released in JPN, but I'm sure it was) that served a purpose at one time, but as the game evolved it just became obsolete. Fusions were a big part of the OCG when it first came out.

I think it would be hard for any of us to know for certain if you couldn't do that in the past. Heck, it wasn't that long ago when people argued about not being able to Reborn a fusion monster summoned with Magical Scientist (and subsequently sent to the Grave for some reason) "anymore". I haven't been around THAT long, but I know lots of people used to think you could, which to me implies that it was the truth at some point.

(I used to do it all the time -- doh!)
 
Well in up coming sets E-Heros have fusions the use other fusions in them. So you could use this card to send a E-Hero fusion you want to use then use Miracle Fusion to remove it from the graveyard to Fusion summon the new Fusion. Normally you would have to have fusion summon the first fusion monster, meaning needing al the correct parts thats 3 cards there, then have another polymersation/Miracle Fusion plus the other part of the next fusion monster you want to use.
 
I would have thought that the main use would be to get removal fodder into the graveyard.
e.g. if you really need a light monster in the graveyard in order to summon Chaos Sorcerer, you can have one. At a cost of 3000LP, it might be steep, but with a well constructed fusion deck you can have whatever you need for your summons, be it Kwagar Hercules in order to summon Doom Dozer, or extra earth monsters for Gigantes etc...
 
Isn't there something that lets you summon Fusion Materials that are listed in the card of a Fusion Monster? Not necessarily anything you used for a Fusion Summon.
 
This I'm not sure on- but could a fusion monster that was not properly summoned that ended up in the graveyard (e.g. Gale Dogra), then was removed from play, be special summoned from the removed from play area?

(I know it would be quicker and more efficient just to use Cyber-Stein, but I like to explore all possibilities)
 
english chef said:
This I'm not sure on- but could a fusion monster that was not properly summoned that ended up in the graveyard (e.g. Gale Dogra), then was removed from play, be special summoned from the removed from play area?
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Nope. The same restrictions hold true here as well. The Fusion Monster must have been properly summoned to begin with in order for it to be eligable for Special Summon from the RFP area.
 
There really is no other use at the moment for the card (unless they change Fusion Card mechanics) outside of using it in a Last Turn Deck. Then there is Life Changer in EOJ that would benefit from it. Monster Eye and Gale Gora would be cool in a Elemental Hero Deck. Just send Elemental Hero Flamewingman and then Miracle Fusion it with Elemental Hero Sparkman or the commonly used Fusion Sub that is most likely in your Graveyard.
 
I don't particularly think they had E-Heroes in mind when they thought up Gale Dogra.

So what on Earth was the point of making this card, if you can't actually do anything with it (particularly at the time it was made so many moons ago)? Also, does this mean you couldn't revive the Fusion Monsters sent by Success Probability 0%?
 
The card came out a bazillion years ago for the OCG. I doubt it had any type of use whatsoever until later on. Perhaps game mechanics allowed the Fusion monster to be Special Summoned. Either way, as of today there is a limited number of uses you could use it for.
 
Maruno said:
Also, does this mean you couldn't revive the Fusion Monsters sent by Success Probability 0%?
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Correct. But on the plus side neither can your opponent. And by taking them out of the fusion deck, your opponent won't be able to fusion summon them later either. And if their fusion deck is only comprised of 3 copies of one monster, you've just cut them down to 1.
 
Yeah, the only thing I can think of is a quick grave dump for special summoning reqs of other mons, but thats so obsolete to foolish burial.
 
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