Cyber Dark Impact and Snipe Hunter

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I was just at the pre-release for Cyber Dark Impact in Dallas and played the sealed tournament. What I came to realize and so did a lot of my opponents (and other players as well) was just how "broken" Snipe Hunter is. The effect: discard one card from your hand, select a card on your opponent's side of the field and roll a die. If the result is NOT a one or a six, destroy the card.

Here's the broken part- it doesn't limit how many times during your turn that you can use it's effect. Have enough cards in your hand, lucky rolls of the die and you can potentially clear your opponent's side of the field. Can anyone say Tribe Infecting? I have a feeling this is a card that will soon make either the limited or banned list soon. What are your thoughts?
 
It's hardly broken. It is at best a 1 for 1 (the card they discard to destroy 1 card on the field). However, there still is only a 2 in 3 chance that the effect would go off so in the long run it favors the defender.
 
Depends on the circumstances. 1 for 1 means nothing when the next shot to your opponent's Life Points means game.
 
hmmmm - discards like.... treeborn frog? or d hero dasher? phoenix blade? thunder dragon? manticore of darkness?
there has to be more...just begging to be tossed into graveyard.... marco cosmos ,rfdd or dimension fusion.....c'mon - pitch some thoughts...
 
Great ideas, cuzwbd. I am looking at some options centering on keeping cards in hand for use. I just think Thunder Dragon is cool becasue you can take 3 quick shots. Dice Re-roll should probably go in.

PoA would be in. I was thinking about DES Lacooda with some stall built in. Maybe an Airknight for added draw. Not sure the best way to do it yet.
 
MightyDingo said:
Great ideas, cuzwbd. I am looking at some options centering on keeping cards in hand for use. I just think Thunder Dragon is cool becasue you can take 3 quick shots. Dice Re-roll should probably go in.
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Well, two quick shots, as Thunder Dragon is discarded as a cost to bring out the other two, so you would only get to discard two for Snipe. But you're on the right track. In a pinch, Night Assailant would net another discard as well.
 
Lets not forget about Dark Necrofear shall we? You don't mind pitching your Fiends into the graveyard when you can special summon Dark Necrofear after clearing the field.

Special Summon Cyber Dragon
Normal summon Snipe Hunter
Pitch a Fiend or two for Snipe Hunter's effect
Special summon Dark Necrofear using the fiends you just tossed
Swarm
 
Well, two quick shots, as Thunder Dragon is discarded as a cost to bring out the other two, so you would only get to discard two for Snipe. But you're on the right track. In a pinch, Night Assailant would net another discard as well.
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Thanks, I keep wanting to think they are like Night Assailant and can be discarded for any reason.

Lets not forget about Dark Necrofear shall we? You don't mind pitching your Fiends into the graveyard when you can special summon Dark Necrofear after clearing the field.

Special Summon Cyber Dragon
Normal summon Snipe Hunter
Pitch a Fiend or two for Snipe Hunter's effect
Special summon Dark Necrofear using the fiends you just tossed
Swarm
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LOL! That could be some serious damage. Control your opponents back row and you will really be holdig them down.
 
Yeah you can pitch this and that to get things in the graveyard to help you out later maybe. But at the same time, you're basically dropping your whole hand to maybe get rid of the same number of cards on the opponent's side of the field. He's not a bad card but stop and look at the current meta where cards like Thestalos the Firestorm Monarch are heavily played because they let you deny your opponent options and where cards like Lightning Vortex (which you can now run in 3) aren't that commonly seen because of the discard cost.

As I said, he's not bad and the better than average chance that you can use his effect as a 1 for 1 will mean he'll see a lot of play in different decks. However, more people will still opt for the "guarenteed" kill instead. If you are relying upon him, you'll either find yourself over-extending or find you have no cards left to use his effect. After all, the Frog may be a "good" discard... once.
 
That is going to be key. Some sort of Draw engine to keep the hand stocked. Thunder Dragon buys some time, but there have to be other options. Maybe Yamata Dragon, but the two trib is tough.

I am thinking about trying to use RftDD/Dimension Fusion to bring a swarm out to the Field, but then I need a Guardian Sphinx-like effect to bounce the field to my hand. Not sure if there is a card like this. :? Penguin Soldier would help, but that means more combos.
 
densetsu's right. 1-4-1's that have a chance of failing are generally not a good idea. Discarding a card is a hard cost, and as Treeborn, Thunder Dragon and Night Assailant only provide 1 good discard, you need a way to keep cards flowing to your hand. Otherwise, Raigeki Break/Phoenix Wing Wind Blast is just a better choice for the "incapacitate 1 card" slot.

You could however, take the Ojama approach with it. Ditch Ojamagic, grab 3 Ojamas. That's 4 chances to snipe, each with a 2/3 chance of success, so you will usually destroy 3 or so cards with Snipes in one turn (supposing they have 3). But that locks you into running 2-3 Ojamagics, and at least 1 or each Ojama. So you better have a whole mess of other discard outlets to make sure they aren't always dead draws to you.

Also, a deck that has plenty of normal monsters, Justi Break, and Dark Factory of Mass Production (or Backup Soldiers if you are taking the "defense" approach...or even Ojamas, I suppose) could utilize Snipes for random destruction. But, again, then you still are almost always just going to Raigeki Break and then have a 1500 attacker. Not the worst situation, but not the best either.
 
That Ojamagic is a good idea for fodder. If the deck will be packing this many discardables, you better make sure you make it count when you attack.
 
Tribe-Infecting Virus was a garenteed 1 vs 1 but it USUALLY generated a 2~3 vs 1 in form of monsters.

This card, it's 66% 1 vs 1 but there's a chance of 0 vs 1 failing. Even WITH discards like Thunder Dragon, Treeborn Frog, Night Assailant, etc. it's not in the broken level IMO. It's the weaker version of Blowback Dragon. Not saying this card is crap, but not in the level of "broken" that it needs to be 2 or 1 per deck IMO. Yeah, there's no limit of how many times you can activate, but at the same time, there's a limit of how many cards you can discard.

I mean, remember back then when Cybernetic Magician was considered broken with Scapegoat + 2x Night Assailant. But the moment that Sinister Serpent got banned and Night Assailant became 1x per deck, the C Magician + Scapegoat combo suddenly dies. That's exactly what this card is, it's hard to keep discarding a card from your hand to destroy cards on the field that's not even 100% garenteed. (Somewhat like Neo Spacian Aqua Dolphin or something)

But yeah, if this card came out earier in the says of 1x Sinister and 2x Night A, yeah... BROKEN AS CRAP!
 
drzero7 said:
Tribe-Infecting Virus was a garenteed 1 vs 1 but it USUALLY generated a 2~3 vs 1 in form of monsters.

This card, it's 66% 1 vs 1 but there's a chance of 0 vs 1 failing. Even WITH discards like Thunder Dragon, Treeborn Frog, Night Assailant, etc. it's not in the broken level IMO. It's the weaker version of Blowback Dragon. Not saying this card is crap, but not in the level of "broken" that it needs to be 2 or 1 per deck IMO. Yeah, there's no limit of how many times you can activate, but at the same time, there's a limit of how many cards you can discard.

I mean, remember back then when Cybernetic Magician was considered broken with Scapegoat + 2x Night Assailant. But the moment that Sinister Serpent got banned and Night Assailant became 1x per deck, the C Magician + Scapegoat combo suddenly dies. That's exactly what this card is, it's hard to keep discarding a card from your hand to destroy cards on the field that's not even 100% garenteed. (Somewhat like Neo Spacian Aqua Dolphin or something)

But yeah, if this card came out earier in the says of 1x Sinister and 2x Night A, yeah... BROKEN AS CRAP!
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But let's not forget that you can target other cards besides monsters. Could be helpful in clearing S/T zones as well.
 
ought to combo well with mausoleum & yamata dragon or morphing jar....idea wouldnt be to use foolishly but to set up a win or serious advantage you've got d hero dasher in grave and drew into 2nd ogre whatever....or to pull you out of a bad spot ....vs dimension fusion filled field or it could be really
handy when you're locked down against burn or marco cosmos types...stien summoned cyber end....etclike anything else - a tool not to be used without restraint....expensive to use but very versatile- nice utility i think
way better than blowback for example....if you walk into 7 11 with your paycheck and walk out with nothing but a 12 pack and a fist full of lotto tickets - this card is probably not for you.... :)
 
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