Help me understand this. A targetting condition has to be met upon activation to even attempt using a card effect. If another effect is chained to it and doesn't negate directly, then at best it can hope to remove the target and cause the effect to fizzle. But the targetting conditions were still correct, weren't they? In this case the targetted monster met the conditions, the effect was activated, and the monster was still present when the effect went to resolve. So how does this ruling make any sense?
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DaGuyWitBluGlasses
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Select and destroy 1 face-up attack position monster could either mean 2 things:
--Select one face-up attack position monster, destroy the selected monster.
Or
--Select one monster. Destroy that face-up attack position monster. (And as per the rules you can't activate effects to do nothing, so the target would have to be face-up attack position as well)
The rulings say this card is the latter. The conditions are required at resolution (by the card) and activation (by game mechanics).
--Select one face-up attack position monster, destroy the selected monster.
Or
--Select one monster. Destroy that face-up attack position monster. (And as per the rules you can't activate effects to do nothing, so the target would have to be face-up attack position as well)
The rulings say this card is the latter. The conditions are required at resolution (by the card) and activation (by game mechanics).
soulwarrior
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squid said:
The correct target is a face-up attack position monster. The target has to be legal at ACTIVATION AND RESOLUTION of the effect.
If you chain an effect to Ring of Destruction's activation and flip the monster face-down, it won't be destroyed (think of Book of Moon).
If you chain an effect to this effect and flip the monster face-down or change it's battle position, the effect will fizzle as well, because the target won't be legal at resolution.
There are other effects that have special activation timing. Like Mirror Force. You can activate it after your opponent declared an attack. Even if the attacking monster won't be face-up attack position at resolution, the rest of Mirror Force's effect will resolve normally and destroy all other face-up attack position monsters on your opponents side of the field.
The reason for this is that MF is not considered targeting. If an effect has more than 1 target and 1 target disappears until resolution, as much as possible of the effect tries to resolve. If all targets are illegal at resolution (if you have only 1 target and it's no longer correct at resolution, all targets are illegal and that's what happened in your example), the effect will fizzle.
soul
