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mikoal

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I know you can activate Blast with chain during damage step that a given


ok lets take a look at this scenario

Player A's BLS attacks Player B's Sinister Serpent

can Player B activate Blast with chain on His gearfried during damage step to kill BLS



basically what im asking is that can u activate blast with chain on a monster that is not in battle IE: gearfried

because yes blast with chains can be activated in damage, but its not the monster in battle

i think it should still work
 
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If you've activated Blast With Chain during the Damage Step and it was destroyed be Gearfried the Iron Knight's effect, Blast With Chain's effect won't resolve until the Resolve Effects portion of the Damage Step. Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning will still destroy Gearfried the Iron Knight in battle.

Effects that involve destructions of monsters during the Damage Step won't resolve until the Resolve Effects portion of the Damage Step
 
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So both of you are saying that if my opponent attacks my "Gemini Elf", I can activate "Blast with Chain" during the damage step and equip it to "GEARFRIED", not "Gemini", and I will be able to destroy their attacking monster as a result? (I know and understand the part about waiting until after damage calculation and all that before the monster will be destroyed.)

Just making sure.


Thanks.
 
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Oops, sorry here folks, I need to read better.

I thought Gearfried was IN battle with BLS-EoTb, then Blast With Chain is activated during the damage step.

If BLS-EoTb attacks Sinister Serpent, and in "response" to the attack you activated Blast With Chain to Gearfried, then Gearfried's effect kicks, thus triggering Blast With Chain.

Yup, you can do that! :D All of this occurs before the Damage Step is reached.
 
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However, if you wait until the Damage Step, while Sinister Serpent and BLS-EoTb are in the Damage Step, even when Gearfried's effect destroys Blast with Chain, thenBlast with Chain's won't triggers, it won't resolve until the Resolve Effects portion of the Damage Step. Sinister Serpent will be desoyed in battle.

Effects that involve destruction of monster during the Damage Step won't occur till the resolve effects portion of the Damage Step.
 
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So the card being activated during the damage step DOES NOT need to modify the ATK/DEF of the monster involved in battle?

It can be applied to ANY valid monster?

Interesting.
 
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skey23 said:
So the card being activated during the damage step DOES NOT need to modify the ATK/DEF of the monster involved in battle?

It can be applied to ANY valid monster?

Interesting.
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Correct, as Limiter Removal involves all face-up Machines.

You can activate Covering Fire to take the attack of a monster not involved in the Damage Step, then chain Rush Recklessly and target the same target for Covering Fire.
 
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StRiKe_NiNjA said:
Correct, as Limiter Removal involves all face-up Machines.

You can activate Covering Fire to take the attack of a monster not involved in the Damage Step, then chain Rush Recklessly and target the same target for Covering Fire.
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But Limiter also modifies the ATK/DEF of the monster involved in the battle.

And Covering Fire is used to increase the ATK of the monster involved in battle.

Both have not proved the point you are trying to make.
 
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skey23 said:
But Limiter also modifies the ATK/DEF of the monster involved in the battle.

And Covering Fire is used to increase the ATK of the monster involved in battle.

Both have not proved the point you are trying to make.
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Actually your right, I haven't proved anything.

But no where in rulings or FAQ's say you can't increase/decrease the attack/def of a monster "not" involved in battle.
 
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During the Damage Step, then it would wait until after battle. Better option is to activate it in response to the attack to try and wipe out BLS-E BEFORE damage occurs and save the summon next turn for a tribute or another monster instead of "resetting" Sinister Serpent.
 
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Digital Jedi said:
I dont think it's ever been stated that the cards that can be activated during the Damage Step had to be specifically targeting the monster in battle. Otherwise you couldn't Magic Jammer your opponent's Rush Recklessly.
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But you are using "Magic Jammer" to negate the "Rush Recklessly" your opponent is using to boost the ATK of the monster involved in battle (most likely).

Still doesn't prove or disprove my question....lol.
 
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Don't get me wrong here fellas. I completely understand what everybody is saying. I also understand the current rulings and mechanics do not prohibit what has been offered in the initial post.

I'm just asking for any rulings and/or info that specifically states you can or can't increase the ATK/DEF of a monster NOT involved in battle during that battle's damage step.

I just find it interesting that somebody would activate a "Rush Recklessly" or "Castle Walls" on a different monster than the one currently in battle.

I completely understand the reasoning behind the initial scenario put forth by mikoal and agree with OKShadow that the better scenario would be to activate "Blast with Chain" in response to the declaration of the attack.

I'm just trying to 'poke' everybodies' brains a little today.
 
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skey23 said:
Don't get me wrong here fellas. I completely understand what everybody is saying. I also understand the current rulings and mechanics do not prohibit what has been offered in the initial post.

I'm just asking for any rulings and/or info that specifically states you can or can't increase the ATK/DEF of a monster NOT involved in battle during that battle's damage step.

I just find it interesting that somebody would activate a "Rush Recklessly" or "Castle Walls" on a different monster than the one currently in battle.

I completely understand the reasoning behind the initial scenario put forth by mikoal and agree with OKShadow that the better scenario would be to activate "Blast with Chain" in response to the declaration of the attack.

I'm just trying to 'poke' everybodies' brains a little today.
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I personally have never seen any posts regarding whether you can or cannot.

I assume noone has asked because it's kind of understood.
 
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why you could, or could not, target a non attacking monster? I got confused.

Sometimes I think the Japanese really must doubt our sanity as we ponder the mechanics and rulings of situations that dont actually occur in practical situations, lol :p
 
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