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I know you can activate Blast with chain during damage step that a given


ok lets take a look at this scenario

Player A's BLS attacks Player B's Sinister Serpent

can Player B activate Blast with chain on His gearfried during damage step to kill BLS



basically what im asking is that can u activate blast with chain on a monster that is not in battle IE: gearfried

because yes blast with chains can be activated in damage, but its not the monster in battle

i think it should still work
 
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skey23 said:
I just find it interesting that somebody would activate a "Rush Recklessly" or "Castle Walls" on a different monster than the one currently in battle.
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At first it hit me odd too. Then the gears began to churn....Gradius & Gradius Option

Covering Fire & Rush Recklessly

I'm sure there are plenty of scenarios where it would be beneficial. Unless someone comes up with some reason why it can't be done I'm assuming it can.

As I can't find anything on the topic in the Official Judge's list or archieves I've posted a question to the judge's board.
 
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John Danker said:
At first it hit me odd too. Then the gears began to churn....Gradius & Gradius Option

Covering Fire & Rush Recklessly

I'm sure there are plenty of scenarios where it would be beneficial. Unless someone comes up with some reason why it can't be done I'm assuming it can.

As I can't find anything on the topic in the Official Judge's list or archieves I've posted a question to the judge's board.
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I too posted to the board and this was my response:

"If they want... but why would they do this?

- The Moderator"

I about fell on the floor laughing so hard...LOL!

I simply asked if a player, that activated something like "Rush Recklessly" or "Castle Walls" during the Damage Step, could target a monster that was not involved in the battle of said Damage Step with that activated card.

I explained that the 'mechanics' of the game did not seem to prohibit this action, but was wondering if there were any rulings that may have done so.

You gotta love Curtis!
 
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haha i see that one question made you all think a bit....
but overall i agree that u should be able to activate it....

but i did not know that the entire battle (damage calculation) has to be resolved until Blast with Chain's "destroying a monster" effect to take place.....
hmmm...interesting
 
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Here's another scenerio:
Player A has Gearfried face up and a Blast with chain set down
Player A attacks my shining angel and during damage step Player A activates BwC on his Gearfried to destroy my Shining Angel
Question: does my Shining Angel die by Gearfrieds attack and therefore giving me the opportunity to summon a light monster with 1500 atk or less, or does my Shining Angel die by the effect of BwC+Gearfried therefore not giving me my special summon?
 
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Dan the Homunculus Man said:
Here's another scenerio:
Player A has Gearfried face up and a Blast with Chain set down
Player A attacks my Shining Angel and during damage step Player A activates BwC on his Gearfried to destroy my Shining Angel
Question: does my Shining Angel die by Gearfrieds attack and therefore giving me the opportunity to summon a light monster with 1500 atk or less, or does my Shining Angel die by the effect of BwC+Gearfried therefore not giving me my special summon?
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Going by Reflect Bounder, i would say that you do not get the effect of Shining Angel, since it would be destroyed and sent to the Graveyard by BwC's effect during the Resolve Effects portion of the Damage Step.
 
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novastar said:
Going by Reflect Bounder, i would say that you do not get the effect of Shining Angel, since it would be destroyed and sent to the Graveyard by BwC's effect during the Resolve Effects portion of the Damage Step.
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This is incorrect. Shining Angel has already been destroyed in battle.

When Gearfried the Iron Knight attacked, during the Damage Step, PlayerA activated Blast With Chain and it was destroyed by Gearfrien The Iron Knight's effect, and won't resolve the the Resolve Effects portion of the Damage Step.

The damage was calculated first, and Shining Angel has already been destroyed as a result of battle, so Blast With Chain cannot destroy a monster that already has been destroyed.

This is true for Divine Wrath, as you destroy Cyber Jar in battle, then chain Divine Wrath to Cyber Jar's effect, it is negated but not redestroyed.
 
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Yes it can, if Reflect is destroyed in battle it will still be sent to the graveyard by it's effect during Resolve Effects.

It doesn't "redestroy" as you put it, but any effect that "destroys" a card, by default also sends it to the Graveyard.
 
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It sucks being sober i know.

As far as the question, i think you might be correct because BwC is targeted. If it was not i would be correct.

So Shining Angel would get its effect, since you cannot target a monster destroyed in battle during Resolve Effects.
 
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Would, then, the destruction effect of Blast with Chain be able to target and destroy the monster that was special summoned by the (battle-destroyed) Shining Angel?

In other words, Shining Angel is destroyed due to battle with Gearfried. Blast with Chain is activated during the damage step and is itself destroyed by Gearfried's effect. During the resolve effects step of damage:

A. Blast with Chain resolves without effect, since Shining Angel cannot be targeted (and assuming its the only monster on the opponent's side)

B. Shining Angel's effect resolves summoning a 1500 or less Light monster to the field, which is then targeted and destroyed by Blast with Chain.

Somehow, Im leaning towards A. Im thinking that the controller of BwC must declare a target during the activation of its effect, (once it was destroyed). If Shining Angel was the only target, and is no longer legal, then the effect would fizzle.

And exactly where are you guys, that you are "Hammer Shotted" right now? Im at about 12:30 my time, and have you all listed at, like 8:30 in the morning!
lol!!
O_0"
 
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It's about 3:30 in the afternoon for me now. When i posted that it was last night, i'm perfectly straight now.

You would choose the target for BwC when you add it to the Chain Block during Resolve Effects.

Shining Angel would not Trigger until later, so you could not choose the monster Special Summoned.
 
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Can you answer one very simple question for me about this, that I haven't seen any clear-cut answer for.

When you target Gearfried in the Damage Step with Blast with Chain, will he get the ATK powerup for the Damage Step, or will he just get the destruction effect of BwC when everything's resolving?
 
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CraniumX said:
Can you answer one very simple question for me about this, that I haven't seen any clear-cut answer for.

When you target Gearfried in the Damage Step with Blast with Chain, will he get the ATK powerup for the Damage Step, or will he just get the destruction effect of BwC when everything's resolving?
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No, Blast With Chain must remained equipped to it's target to give the increase of course.
 
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So in otherwords, it will be destroyed immediately as soon as it is equipped, and he will only recieve the boost for a split second.

The destruction effect will Trigger after Damage Calculation.

Keep in mind, the rules for this are still in flux and there is no clear-cut answer, that is just last known ruling for it.
 
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That's pretty much what I wanted to know, since I could imagine people ruling it different ways, if they tried it. I'd just do it when they declared the attack, or before, personally, but if during the damage step it would work like a slightly reduced version of Rush Recklessly, I could see it happening.

This is really a quite important card for the Swordmaster Gearfried Equip deck I had thought about fooling around with.
 
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