dark door questions

[woltarr]

good morning fellows

this is the scenario

player 1 have "dark door" face up

player 2 have umi face up and legendary fisherman face up and mermaid knight

this is the question

if player 2 choose to atck with mermaid knight first, he can atck with fisherman since he is unnafected by spell cards?

i remenber the rules of horus 6 that says that he can atck even with face up "tools" , "level limit are b' , "swords" or GK servant on the oponent side of the field


also

if player 1 decides to atck first with fisherman , it will count as the atck for the turn or since fisherman is unnafected by spells ,"dark door" would not "perceive" him thus alowing mermaid knight to atck as the atck of the turn?

any imput will be welcome

woltarr

 

[John Danker]

If you attack with Mermaid Knight first you'll be able to attack with The Legendary Fisherman as a second (and third if you have more than one The Legendary Fisherman on the field with Umi) attack assuming you have Umi face up on the field.

If, however, you attack with The Legendary Fisherman first The Dark Door still counts the attack and Mermaid Knight will not be able to follow in attack.

 

[roadhouse007]

I agree with JD on this, but I have been known to be wrong sometimes. If you attack with Mermaid Knight first, Dark Door's effect is then applied, but Legendary Fisherman is unaffected by Dark Door's effect and can still attack. On the other hand, you attack with Legendary Fisherman first, then Dark Door's effect is applied and stops Mermaid Knight from being able to attack, because you haev already attacked with one monster this turn.

 

[skey23]

Deja Vu...lol...Didn't John just say the same thing?

[edit]3 hours before..

 

[Androfrost]

I do not agree here. I think The Dark Door puts a condition on the players not on the monsters. The players can only have one monster attack. Therefore monsters that aren't effected by magic such as Horus LV6 shouldn't be able to attack if another monster attacks first.

 

[DaGuyWitBluGlasses]

I do not agree here. I think The Dark Door puts a condition on the players not on the monsters. The players can only have one monster attack. Therefore monsters that aren't effected by magic such as Horus LV6 shouldn't be able to attack if another monster attacks first.

There has been many simialr topics but ehre is how it is:

Players do not attack, they conduct battle phases. Only monsters attack. So even when a spell card talks about players declaring an attack, it is not affecting the players; its affecting the monsters. Therefore monsters unaffected by spell cards can always attack.

 

[Androfrost]

Its obvious the player doesn't attack, but a player does choose whether or not a monster attacks. If the player is forbidden from telling more than one monster to attack how can the second one attack?

However, I should have thought about Swords of Revealing Light. I know such monsters can attack through the swords and it says the opponent cannot declare an attack.

 

[Mazera DeVille]

It's the effect of the spell card stopping the attacks or more than 1 attack if it is Dark Door. Legendary Fisherman is unaffected by Spell cards so the effects of Dark Door and Swords of Revealing Light would not affect it. If they had been in trap forms then it would be a different story entirely.

 

[Mazera DeVille]

Another question, say the player had The Dark Door on the field and Cyber Jar face down. The opponent attacks Cyber Jar and all monsters on the field are destroyed and a new set of monsters are placed. Can the opponent attack with one of the new monsters that turn or has the fulfillment of one monster battling already bee fulfilled for The Dark Door.

 

[densetsu_x]

Since The Dark Door is still on the field, the limitation would still be met. One monster can attack and you already did. The only way you would be able to attack would be if one of the monsters that Cyber Jar summoned was immune to Spell effects.

 

[Bill]

Since The Dark Door is still on the field, the limitation would still be met. One monster can attack and you already did. The only way you would be able to attack would be if one of the monsters that Cyber Jar summoned was immune to Spell effects.

Or if from Cyber Jar they had gotten a Mystical Space Typhoon, in which case they may choose to activate it in the batte phase and destroy The Dark Door and then attack with the rest of their monsters. ^_^