Desert Sunlight and FLIP effects.

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Desert Sunlight
Normal Trap

All monsters on your side of the field are changed to face-up Defense Position.


Simple question then. If I activate "Desert Sunlight" and a face-down monster has a FLIP effect, does that effect get activated after "Desert Sunlight" has finished resolving?

Thanks

- Andrew
 
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Yes, it will. After the chain in which Desert Sunlight flipped the monster finishes resolving, the Flip Effects will begin a new chain. If more than one monster was flipped by this effect that has a relevant effect, the controller of those effects will determine the order they go on the chain in.
 
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Follow up question.

Case 1: Lets say my opponent has a Gemini Elf and Slate Warrior both in attack position and I have a set Man-Eater Bug, a set Desert Sunlight, and a Book of Moon in my hand. If my opponent attacks with Gemini Elf first. I respond with Book of Moon and targets my f/d Man-Eater Bug (if it is legal to target a f/d monster). My opponent does not chain. Then I chain Desert Sunlight. I am hoping to reuse my MEB's effect.

If this is legal, how does the chain looks like and when do we add the new chain for the flip effect?

Case 2: Maybe the best move is when my opponent attacks with Gemini Elf, I respond with DS, let it resolve, use flip effect to kill Slate Warrior, then start another chain by activating Book of Moon on MEB. Then Gemini attacks and gets destroyed by MEB.

I want to know if both cases are legal.
 
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Darn, too late. lol

like Dlanaan said, book of moon can only target faceup monsters.

so the first one wouldnt work.

the second would work. the chain(s) would look like this.

player 1 declares an attack
player 2 activates desert sunlight.
player 2's MEB activates its effect killing 1 monster.

Player 1's monster is now attackaing
player 2 chains book of moon on MEB

Player1's monster now hits the face down MEB.

I really really really hope that is how the play looks. :D
 
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krazykidpsx said:
Darn, too late. lol

like Dlanaan said, book of moon can only target faceup monsters.

so the first one wouldnt work.

the second would work. the chain(s) would look like this.

player 1 declares an attack
player 2 activates desert sunlight.
player 2's MEB activates its effect killing 1 monster.

Player 1's monster is now attackaing
player 2 chains book of moon on MEB

Player1's monster now hits the face down MEB.

I really really really hope that is how the play looks. :D
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Well, just to correct the wording because you are not chaining to the attack (attacks like summons have no speed so they can't be chained to). The ruling was chained though so that you can start multiple chains in the Battle Phase. It's why the following scenario works:

Player 1 declares an attack with his "Gemini Elf" on Player 2's face up "Magician of Faith".
Player 2 activates "Magic Cylinder"
Player 1 chains "Trap Jammer".
Player 2 passes, the chain resolves with "Trap Jammer" negating "Magic Cylinder".

Now there is still the attack pending, but the "state" now is "Chain Resolved", so Player 2 can't activate "Mirror Force" or "Draining Shield" since they can only be activated when the attack is declared and that chain hasn't resolved. However, Player 2 instead decides to activate "Waboku" (starting a new chain). Player 1 passes, "Waboku" resolves and no battle damage is taken so "Magician of Faith" remains on the field.

Now, 1 other thing wrong with the above example. Since the opponent is attacking, "Book of Moon" can't be played from your hand. It would have to be set on the field. So if we change that, here's how it would work:

Player 1 has "Gemini Elf" and "Slate Warrior"
Player 2 has a face-down defense "Man-Eater Bug", and a set "Desert Sunlight" and "Book of Moon"

Player 1 declares an attack with "Gemini Elf"
Player 2 activates "Desert Sunlight"
Player 1 passes, "Desert Sunlight" resolves, flipping "Man-Eater Bug".
The attack is still pending at this point. "Man-Eater Bug"'s effect activates, starts a new chain. Player 1 passes and the effect resolves. Player 2 chooses to destroy "Slate Warrior".
The attack is still pending after the 2nd chain. Player 2 activates "Book of Moon" and flips "Man-Eater Bug" face down.
With no other chains activated at this point, the attack finally goes through with "Gemini Elf" attacking and destroying "Man-Eater Bug". "Man-Eater Bug" is reflipped, his effect activates again, and this time "Gemini Elf" is destroyed.

There you go. And like I said before, deck ideas have just opened up :evil:

- Andrew
 
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thats correct but only when its your turn.

you can activate them any point and time, but once set, they take the properties of a trap, were they can only be activated during anytime of your opponents turn.

through the example i was giving, id figure book of moon was set as well, but i guess it wasnt.

so no you wouldnt be able to play book of moon if you still have it in your hand. :)
 
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Its also A good combo for Dream clowns and other monster that have effect like that, also if you have already summoned a magical scientist you can change it next turn. :D :D :D
 
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Desert Sunlight is one of those cards that could be standard in any flip deck. They are seen quite frequently in Deck Destruction with Needleworms and such. DS is smart to think about for anyone with a desperate fear of nobleman of crossout.

:mrgreen:(I want this in my avatar and sig!!)
 
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