Enchanted Javelin (DB1-EN077) Normal Trap

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Increase your Life Points by the ATK of 1 attacking monster.

There are some unclear points:
1. whose attacking monster - of the Opponent or mine?
2. original ATK or modified ATK?
3. Is enough, that the 1 attacking monster may only be in face up attacking position, without to perform an attack in the turn of activation of Enchanted Javelin, or have to attack immediately before Activation?
There is nothing in the Rules.
 
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Any attacking monster.

Current ATK.

Enchanted Javelin can only activate in response to an attack, and it looks at that attacking monster. The "-ing" in "attacking" is the present tense, so it must be doing it when you activate the card.
 
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Ah, so this is another Goblin's Secret Remedy situation (it used to say, "Increase a selected player's Life Points" instead of "your Life Points"). It figures; it's an old card that people tend not to use.
 
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The Japanese text may say that, but that's not how you'll find it ruled in the Enlgish TCG. Enchanted Javelin can be activated in response to any attack.
 
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Digital Jedi said:
The Japanese text may say that, but that's not how you'll find it ruled in the Enlgish TCG. Enchanted Javelin can be activated in response to any attack.
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Do you have any confirmation of this? If it's true, I've just found a way to make "Cyberstein" and "Powerbond" that much more powerful in a deck.

doc
 
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There are no rulings on Enchanted Javelin and there is only one Judges List message even mentioning the card. http://lists.upperdeck.com/read/messages?id=4552. The text reads: "Increase your Life Points by the ATK of 1 attacking monster." and makes no mention of which player controls the attacking monster. The Japanese text not withstanding, our rulings are supposed to be made on the basis of those two sources of information and the text where lacking. While using the Japanese texts and rulings might be nice way to clarify confusing rulings situations for some, it most definitely doesn't matter if the Japanese version reads differently. Until we are instructed to do otherwise, we are to rule a card on it's rulings, messages from the list and it's text. What the Japanese do would be beside the point.
 
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Digital Jedi said:
There are no rulings on Enchanted Javelin and there is only one Judges List message even mentioning the card. http://lists.upperdeck.com/read/messages?id=4552. The text reads: "Increase your Life Points by the ATK of 1 attacking monster." and makes no mention of which player controls the attacking monster. The Japanese text not withstanding, our rulings are supposed to be made on the basis of those two sources of information and the text where lacking. While using the Japanese texts and rulings might be nice way to clarify confusing rulings situations for some, it most definitely doesn't matter if the Japanese version reads differently. Until we are instructed to do otherwise, we are to rule a card on it's rulings, messages from the list and it's text. What the Japanese do would be beside the point.
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Well, I believe card history and previous rulings if not overturned should be taken into account as well, as many of you have ably pointed out for other cards. The previous text of "Enchanged Javelin" said "When your opponent's monster attacks, increase your Life Points by the attacking monster's ATK points." I don't believe they changed the text just so we can abuse the card.

This is a good question for UDE to clarify.

doc
 
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ygo doc said:
Well, I believe card history and previous rulings if not overturned should be taken into account as well, as many of you have ably pointed out for other cards. The previous text of "Enchanged Javelin" said "When your opponent's monster attacks, increase your Life Points by the attacking monster's ATK points." I don't believe they changed the text just so we can abuse the card.

This is a good question for UDE to clarify.

doc
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I agree, the previous rulings should be used here until we get actual official word on whether it has changed or not.

Some of the card text changes have been incorrect and i personally don't believe all of them are officially approved by Konami, and end up needing to be recorrected.

I highly doubt you can use it on your attack.
 
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It would make a great counter to Magic Cylinder. Too bad the timing is off for Mirror Force, it would be great to get something out of the monster you're about to lose. Oh, well, there's always Mystik Wok.
 
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Digital Jedi said:
I'm referring to when did it not work on either attack, after the errata.
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I do agree, based on literal interpretation of the current text, it would point to it being able to be used no matter who is attacking.

I still personally feel that because it is such a significant change to the effect, we should have some sort of concrete statement from either Konami (the JPN site is fine), or UDE to back this text up.
 
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does the effect include negating the attack of the attacking monster?
does the effect first negate the attack of the attacking monster and then will increase the life points
OR
does not negate the attack but first increases the life points and then applyes normaly damage calculation?
 
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