Exiled and mask of restrict
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masterwoo0
NINJA4LIFE
TextLithium said:
Neither player can Tribute any monster under any conditions.
Looks like that means no monsters can be Tributed, including as a Cost.
Since the text on Exiled Force says (according to the latest printing of the card) "By tributing this face-up card..." then no you cannot use the effect while Mask of Restrict is on the field.
Well it happens, if he would've taken the time to analize the situation he would've just figured that, tributing a monster for a tribute summon is a cost as well and Mask of Restrict also prevents that.
But to be fair he MIGHT have got confused about the effect because of this ruling:
BUT, that's just a chaining sequence that could easily be analized when reading carefully.
But to be fair he MIGHT have got confused about the effect because of this ruling:
BUT, that's just a chaining sequence that could easily be analized when reading carefully.
Yeah, I'm hearing similar comments made about Dark Panther. Someone made a blanket statement that it wouldn't copy a particular effect because the particular effect was trigger. Now I keep hearing that it won't copy any Trigger Effects, which isn't necessarily true.
People really do need to read their rulings more carefully. 95 percent of the tributes in the game are costs, and the ones that are part of an effect are rarely played.
Of course, it's possible that at this tournament that the player tried chaining Mask of Restrict to Exiled's effect. Then, of course, it wouldn't have worked.
People really do need to read their rulings more carefully. 95 percent of the tributes in the game are costs, and the ones that are part of an effect are rarely played.
Of course, it's possible that at this tournament that the player tried chaining Mask of Restrict to Exiled's effect. Then, of course, it wouldn't have worked.
HorusMaster
New Member
Digital Jedi said:
So, if a player summoned Exiled Force and went to use the effect, the NTP couldn't activate Mask of Restrict and stop Exiled's effect from resolving? I'm not sure that can happen.
masterwoo0
NINJA4LIFE
He can still activate Mask of Restrict, but it will be too late to stop Exiled Force because the Cost has already been paid, but if you had a situation like Cannon Soldier and 4 Sheep Token's, you could chain it to the first Token Tributed, and the 2, 3, and 4th would be prevented from being Tributed.HorusMaster said:
Just look at the way a chain resolves. We know that costs are always paid first before an effect is placed on the chain. So when the turn player tributes Exiled Force, and the opponent chains Mask of Restrict, what happens? Resolve the chain backwards.HorusMaster said:
Link 2: Mask of Restrict resolves first and no tributes can be offered.
Link 1: Exiled Force now resolves and destroys one monster because the tribute occurred BEFORE Mask of Restrict became active.
This is the same principle behind the Good Goblin Housekeeping/ Emergency Provisions combo. Emergency Provision's cost is to send Spell and Trap Cards to the Graveyard. Good Goblin Housekeeping lets you draw a card for each Good Goblin Housekeeping in your Graveyard + 1 extra. So you activate all you GGH's first, then chain Emergency Provisions. Since it's a cost, can send all your face-up resolving Gogh's immediately to the Graveyard immediately, before the GGHs can resolve. Then when they do resolve, all the GGH's are in the Grave and the player maximized the number of cards he could draw per each GGH. So if he sent all three t the Grave with EPs cost, he's he'll be able to draw 3 cards +1 for EACH Good Goblin Housekeeping he sent to the Graveyard. Which would result in him drawing 12 cards. Kinda give you an idea of why it's limited to two since it came out.
Exiled vs Mask is the same principle, except the order of this chain is a little different. The cost was paid BEFORE Mask of Restrict was active. So by the time Mask of restrict becomes active, Exiled has already been tributed and is in the Graveyard, and Mask of Restrict doesn't do anything to an effect already on the chain. It's prevents tributes, (future tense) not tributes that have already happened (past tense).
Mask of Restrict is a prevention effect. Not a negation effect. "Prevention" stops an event from taking place to begin with, but cannot undo an event that already successfully took place. "Negation" undoes an event that already happened, rewinding the game state to before the event took place.