Exiled Force LOD-EN023

Exiled Force
Effect Monster (Warrior / EARTH / 4 Stars / ATK 1000 / DEF 1000)

Tribute this face-up card. Destroy 1 monster on the field.

And let the debate rage on here. I'm pretty certain that most players either have this card or have had it used against them so they're all well aware of what it can do. The stats aren't much, but who's using this card for the stats anyway? Being a 4 Star Warrior as well, it can be searched out by pretty much anything. While not quite a staple card, it ranks in the tier just below. So where's the controversy?

Much of his debate lately has been vs. "The End of Anubis" (yesterday's review) since his effect is considered a Graveyard Effect. Not in the typical sense of "Sangan" or "Mystic Tomato", but in that if the costs for an effect are paid first before the effect is considered activated, "Exiled Force" tributes himself, sending himself to the Graveyard. At that point his effect activates. Since the activation begins in the Graveyard, it would be subject to "The End of Anubis". (And considering the thread has over 160 posts as of now and almost 1800 views, you can see this is a highly contested debate).

As for "Exiled Force" himself, being as he can be searched by "Sangan", "Mytic Tomato", and "Reinforcement of the Army", if you have the space in your deck then run it. Unless they have "Stumbling or "Divine Wrath", there's little your opponent can do to prevent you from destroying his monster.
 
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So if I set Exiled Force on My turn and ended my turn... then my opponent summoned a monster on his turn could I activate the effect of Exiled force and destroy his monster.


I am thinking the answer is no because of the previous post; however, I wanted to be certain.
 
uztaryn said:
So if I set Exiled Force on My turn and ended my turn... then my opponent summoned a monster on his turn could I activate the effect of Exiled force and destroy his monster.


I am thinking the answer is no because of the previous post; however, I wanted to be certain.
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No, you cannot activate the effect of an Exiled Force you control during your opponent's turn.
 
Last question on this card... can I, on my turn summon Exiled force then immediately tribute it to destroy a monster.


If so does this happen before or after my battle phase.
 
uztaryn said:
Last question on this card... can I, on my turn summon Exiled force then immediately tribute it to destroy a monster.


If so does this happen before or after my battle phase.
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After you summon Exiled Force you have priority to activate it's effect.

I suggest you read the RONIN rulings for each card or see the FAQ before asking further basic questions on cards. We ARE indeed happy to answer questions and it's our pleasure to help out where we can, however, we also appreciate people doing their homework and trying to answer their own questions with a bit of research first. If you need help finding RONIN or the FAQ please let us know and we'll direct you to it.
 
but besides the basic question asking, what's the general opinion on Exiled? Its one of the few cards that continues to pop up (and out again) of the scene annoying and frustrating opponents.

I think the card is great for the simple matter that it has caused controversy on everything from End of Anubis to way back on EF vs. Trap Hole. Brought priority into the faces of a lot of unknowing duelists.

I mean how many cards have caused this many problems?: Skill Drain, Divine Wrath, Fiber Jar, (??); its not a big list. Most rulings can be extrapolated (that IS a fun word!) from controversies involving cards like Exiled Force.

Im not big on using it, but I love the problems it creates! (Devil's advocate syndrome)
 
Ah yes, and I forgot to add one other thing to the debate.

Typically Graveyard effects go to the owner of the card, not the controller. You "Creature Swap" your "Sangan" to your opponent and then kill it with "Jinzo". You are the one who gets the effect of "Sangan".

So, if you "Snatch Steal" your opponent's "Exiled Force" and use his ability, since it would activate in your opponent's Graveyard, wouldn't that mean he would get the effect? (Personally speaking, I would say "no". Where "Exiled Force" differs from "Sangan", "Myst..." (darn no strikethrough) er "Giant R..." er... "Mother Grizzly" and such is that it is an Ignition effect and not a Trigger Effect like the others. As such, the player activating the effect is the one who would get it. In a Triggered condition such as "Sangan" then the owner of Sangan is the one who receives it.)
 
For all these times that I have been playing yugioh, I still don't understand why this is not a stable. I mean you can destroy ANY monster(face-up or face-down) with this card's effect. your monster or your opponent's monster. unlike D.D. warrior lady, which can be destroyed be4 removing your opponent's monster(by mirror force, trap hole, or nobleman of crossout), exiled seems far more reliable to me. I don't really see any drawback of this card. yes, its stats wouldn't help much, but just considering monster removel ability, this card is the best.

and I think if you take control of your opponent's exiled force and use its effect, you should get the effect because exiled's effect is not truly a graveyard effect. You paid the cost, You should get the effect. exiled just resolving in your opponent's graveyard. exiled's effect will go off anyway even if hes removed from play after tributing himself. I think the one who pay the cost should be the one who gets the effect.

Great review btw. ^^
 
removefromp said:
and I think if you take control of your opponent's exiled force and use its effect, you should get the effect because exiled's effect is not truly a graveyard effect. You paid the cost, You should get the effect.... I think the one who pay the cost should be the one who gets the effect.
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I think most of us agree with you, but the problem lies in that the latest ruling handed down contradicts that idea.

removefromp said:
...exiled just resolving in your opponent's graveyard. exiled's effect will go off anyway even if hes removed from play after tributing himself...
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Part of the confusion is that the ruling suggests that effects are associated from the place in which they resolve. If you tribute Exiled, and it goes to the Graveyard, then its destruction effect resolves from that location, and is considered a Graveyard effect.

If Exiled is tributed and becomes removed from play (ie: Banisher of the Light) then Exiled's effect resolves from the RFP area, and becomes a RFP based effect.

This is the similar to the reason that Peten the Dark Clown is not negated by Anubis, because, even though activating from the Grave, it resolves from the RFP area, and is therefore not a Graveyard effect. The part concerning Peten being removed from the Graveyard is deemed the cost, and out of the realm of Anubis' influence.
 
I really like using Exiled Force, but there are some good reasons people don't always use it. Exiled Force is fairly worthless in most situations unless you are already controlling the field. If you don't have any monsters you don't usually want to leave your field open for attacking even if you take out one of your opponent's monsters. Exiled makes a winning field position better, but when you are behind, it can really be a bad draw.

I do use it for its versatility and such, but I also do fear DD Warrior Lady more than Exiled Force. I guess I don't like having my cards removed from play, and neither do a lot of people. Exiled Force really shines in Warrior decks more than anything. Its so easily searched from the deck or grave in those kinds of decks.

I think overall, in most decks, its a matter of opinion whether or not to use this card and its not really a staple.
 
Even better in an earth Deck:

Summon Exiled Force, destroy your opponents monster, remove exiled force from play to make Gigantes., and there goes ~1/4 of your opponents life points. Or gigantes would likely take out whatever monster remains on your opponent side of the field. (Or else take out your opponents spell and traps.. call of the haunted, premature burial to get that monster back? not for long)
 
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As is obvious to everyone Exiled Force was my first favorite card and still is. It now ranks No. one on my list of favorite cards(the list contains 6 cards).

I love this guy, he is an asset to any deck that cares whether your opponent has monsters on the field. He works best on burn or stall decks, he's one of those cards that doesn't need to attack in order to do his job; this makes him VERY versitile.

In addition to the fact that he can kill anything he is a healthy 1000 attack. 1000 attack means several things, the first thing is that it's ok to attack with a 1000 att monster. we all attack directly with Sangan but rarely with a sinister serpant. Why? because when you attack with a weak monster your doing little damage with a risk your opponent will summon a strong monster and do more damage then is worth the risk, it's safer to leave a sinister serpant in defense position while attacking with a Sangan or Exiled Force will pay off no matter what your opponent summons next. Lets also not forget Exiled Force can get under Messenger of Peace.

Exiled Force is also great because it can turn a Premature Burial or Call of the Haunted into a potential Thousand Knives. Lets also not forget the perpetual "The Creator" + "Exiled Force" + "Sinister Serpent" PWNAGE combo. Any seasoned duelist given the opportunity to remove monsters from their opponent's graveyard with kycoo, Dark Blade the Dragon Knight, Soul Release, etc. will have their priorities in the following order:
1. Sinister Serpent
2. Exiled Force
3. Lights and darks
4. cards that are active as long as they remain in the grave, examples include Marie the Fallen One and Helpoemer
5. everything else

This just adds to the proof that Exiled Force is a powerful card to be reckoned with. In my warrior deck I can end up using Exiled Force 5 times per duel using the original summon, call, premature, and x2 The Warrior Returning Alive. This brings up another point., although Exiled Force is versitile in itself it adds to the versitility of other cards in your deck; it adds options.

If you put a Exiled Force in your deck you are adding to the versitility and options of the following cards:
-Premature Burial
-Monster Reborn
-Call of the Haunted
-The Warrior Returning Alive
-Reinforcement of the Army
-Giant Rat
-The Creator
-Monster Reincarnation
I'm sure there are more I'm forgetting

Anyone with half a brain knows that all conventional warrior decks MUST have Exiled Force. Most warrior decks include The Warrior Returning Alive and Reinforcement of the Army. It is very important that these cards are very versitile.
In a warrior deck The Warrior Returning Alive and Reinforcement of the Army must be the most versitile card in the deck by relying on the cards in the deck itself. If you need to kill a monster you bring out Exiled Force; if you need to defend yourself you get Command Knight (hopefully you have a Scapegoat in hand or set); if you need to remove a pheonix you bring out a d.d.warrior lady or a d.d.assailant, if you want to kill a powerful monster (Vampire Lord anyone?) and gain field presence you bring out Zombyra the Dark; if you need a powerful 2k monster or a flip negator you bring out Blade Knight; if you have a clear shot at your opponent's life points you bring out Don Zaloog; if you need a light or dark this is the card you use.

Exiled Force was DESIGNED to add to the power and versitility of warriors (personal opinion). I believe that anyone who thinks Exiled Force is bad because you "waste your summon" is narrow minded.

-end of rant :D

P.S. In case you were wondering, I'm the one who banished Exiled Force ;)
 
Oh geez, I've loved that Creator / Exhiled Force combo. It's given serious headaches to a number of my opponents. You normally don't think of a The Creator being in a warrior deck but when you consider that The Creator Incarnate is a light warrior itself with a 1600 atk.(searchable itself obviously with Reinforcements of the Army) it's worthwile playing. I use a Monster Reincarnation in that same deck to get around The Creator being unable to be special summoned from the gravyyard. (adding to the rant)
 
John Danker said:
(adding to the rant)
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LOL!!!

Yes, it's true, it is very possible to make a warrior/creator deck. It can be a force to be reckoned with if made well

(yes, I know I used the word "be" twice in a sentance, I don't care right now, I'll probably fix later)
 
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