Fusilier Dragon vs Skill Drain

chenw

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does skill drain negate the second effect of halfing its own ATK when it is summoned with no tribs? if it doesnt, limiter is so going into my skill drain deck
 
In addition, Skill Drain resets the state of Fusilier. If you summon Fusilier without tribute, then Skill Drain gets played, Fusilier will be 2800 ATK. Then, if Skill Drain gets destroyed, Fusilier will still be 2800 ATK even though he was summoned without tribute.
 
heres another question about fusilier dragon...

can you bottomless trap hole fusilier dragon when it is normal summoned without a tribute since it would have 1400 attack which wouldnt be a legal target of bottomless trap hole, but its actual ATK is 2800 which is a legal target for bottomless trap hole so will bottomless trap hole work on it?
 
the.wise.duelist said:
heres another question about fusilier dragon...

can you bottomless trap hole fusilier dragon when it is normal summoned without a tribute since it would have 1400 attack which wouldnt be a legal target of bottomless trap hole,  but its actual ATK is 2800 which is a legal target for bottomless trap hole so will bottomless trap hole work on it?
No, in order to legally activate [Bottomless Trap Hole] you have to use the current ATK, which, when you Normal Summon Fusilier (no tribute) would be 1400, and not legal for Bottomless Trap Hole.
 
Cool... so summon the Fusiliers then activate Skill Drain at which point it is too late to activate Bottomless or Torrential as a card has already been activated after the summon so any "summon-killers" such as those would no longer have a "valid" activation point.
 
You should see my son's Skill drain deck. 3 Fusilier dragons, 3 Goblin attack forces, 3 Giant Orcs. Lots of beatdown and with Skill drain out it just crushes (just hope he never gets out Ring and Barrel on a powered up dragon.
 
OKShadow said:
Cool... so summon the Fusiliers then activate Skill Drain at which point it is too late to activate Bottomless or Torrential as a card has already been activated after the summon so any "summon-killers" such as those would no longer have a "valid" activation point.

Not quite totally sure about that. Player A Normal Summons Fusilier Dragon without a tribute, giving it 1400 ATK. As stated earlier Bottomless Trap Hole could not be activated. However, Torrential Tribute could. Player B would have a chance to respond to the summon before Player A could activate Skill Drain. At least I think that's how that should work.
 
You can activate Skill Drain as the turn player, before the opponent can activate Torrential Tribute. The timing would still be correct for Torrential Tribute, and Fusilier will be destroyed.

It would look like this:

- Player A Normal Summons Fusilier (ATK 1400)

* Summon Reponse Chain
[TP Chain Link 1] Skill Drain (pay 1000 LP)
[OP Chain Link 2] Torrential Tribute

Then you would resolve backwords, destroying all monsters on the field, then Skill Drain would become active.

Hope that helps
 
DestinyBond said:
OKShadow said:
Cool... so summon the Fusiliers then activate Skill Drain at which point it is too late to activate Bottomless or Torrential as a card has already been activated after the summon so any "summon-killers" such as those would no longer have a "valid" activation point.

Not quite totally sure about that. Player A Normal Summons Fusilier Dragon without a tribute, giving it 1400 ATK. As stated earlier Bottomless Trap Hole could not be activated. However, Torrential Tribute could. Player B would have a chance to respond to the summon before Player A could activate Skill Drain. At least I think that's how that should work.
Right... forgot Torrential doesn't have a specific trigger for it. That bomb is activated by remote HAHA
 
First if player A summons then unless he/she is going to exercise prioity (eg. activating CED's effect) I believe it is player B's right to activate a card first. Second, no player worth their salt would waste 1000LP before seeing if torrential is going to be played.
 
Actually if it is like most games in traditional format the monsters on the field are probably 3 or less anyway, so they still might and run the damage and go to top-deck mode. Or be particularly nasty and chain Interdimensional to the Torrential to save the Dragon.
 
My post wasn't 100% clear I meant that no player would pay 1000LP to activate Skill Drain without seeing if the card they summoned is going to survive. So activating Skill Drain and then seeing the monster torrentialed is a big waste.
 
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