gemini + stumbling.
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2. The Gemini Monster Card remains on the field. It is not picked up or moved anywhere in this process.
3. Counters will remain on the Gemini Monster Card.
4. Equip Cards will remain equipped to the Gemini Monster Card.
5. They will continue to target the monster.
6. "Solemn Judgment" and "Horn of Heaven" can be used to negate the Summon, just as "Trap Hole" and "Bottomless Trap Hole" can be used to respond to the Summon.
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3. Counters will remain on the Gemini Monster Card.
4. Equip Cards will remain equipped to the Gemini Monster Card.
5. They will continue to target the monster.
6. "Solemn Judgment" and "Horn of Heaven" can be used to negate the Summon, just as "Trap Hole" and "Bottomless Trap Hole" can be used to respond to the Summon.
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It would get turned to Defense as soon as it is hits the field with Premature Burial. Stumbling activates automatically so you can't activate it yourself. You wouldn't have a chance to Normal Summon it until after Stumbling has resolved.
Also, I would assume you cannot change it to Attack Position when you use the Normal Summon since it was just Special Summoned... even if you could, Stumbling would activate again and change it to Defense position again since it's a Normal Summon and is treated as a Normal Summon (UDE says you can activate Torrential Tribute, etc. to a Normal Summon to turn on a Gemini's effect.)
Also, I would assume you cannot change it to Attack Position when you use the Normal Summon since it was just Special Summoned... even if you could, Stumbling would activate again and change it to Defense position again since it's a Normal Summon and is treated as a Normal Summon (UDE says you can activate Torrential Tribute, etc. to a Normal Summon to turn on a Gemini's effect.)
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i figured it would. just comparing notes.
it was based on that specific ruling/statement that made me wonder if it would trigger stumbling.
i was already aware of the first few. not absolutely sure where you are going with pointing out that ruling but i imagine its destination, was to what soilent said.
that a gemini summon is the same as a normal summon, and thus all effects that trigger, can activate from a normal summon, can happen on a gemini summon (e.g. you can torrential, bottomless trap hole, solemn judgement, forced back when a gemini monster is re-summoned, thus a re-summon of a monster in ATK-pos would trigger stumbling and put it into DEF)
it was based on that specific ruling/statement that made me wonder if it would trigger stumbling.
i was already aware of the first few. not absolutely sure where you are going with pointing out that ruling but i imagine its destination, was to what soilent said.
that a gemini summon is the same as a normal summon, and thus all effects that trigger, can activate from a normal summon, can happen on a gemini summon (e.g. you can torrential, bottomless trap hole, solemn judgement, forced back when a gemini monster is re-summoned, thus a re-summon of a monster in ATK-pos would trigger stumbling and put it into DEF)
It was an unusual week. The site was being persnickety.