Goddess with a third eye and Dark Paladin

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Javario

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O.k, Goddess with a third eye, Beastking of the swamps, and king of the swamp can all be used as a substitute for a fusion summon.


But can't I normal summon goddess with a third eye and tribute that to bring out Dark Paladin?


Card Name: Goddess With The Third Eye
Attribute: Light
Type: Fairy/effect


Effect/card text: you can substitute this card for any 1 material monster. You cannot substitute for any other monster in the current fusion.

Does this mean that I can normal summon and tribute her to bring out paladin? Or is it just for a substitute for fusion. I can't remember... Beast king of the swamps basically says the same thing.
 
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You can use any fusion substitute monster like Goddess or King of the Swamp as 1 of the fusion monsters regardless if they had been normal summoned to the field (or special summoned for that fact) or if they are still in your hand. All you would need is the rest of the monsters needed for the fusion. The ruling is printed like that so that you can't use only fusion substitute monsters (like 2 King of the Swamps to bring out "Dark Paladin" or 1 King of the Swamp and 2 Goddesses to bring out "Ojama King"). But if you have King of the Swamp on the field and you draw Buster Blader, you can then use Polymerization and offer the KotS and BB and special summon "Dark Paladin".

- Andrew
 
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so I can't normal summon her and tribute her to bring out paladin? They have to be used as sub's in fusion? So what's the difference between the three? Is there any difference? Is there an effect monster that I can use to get paladin or any fusion out without fusing? Besides using magical scientist. I thought beast king of the swamps and goddess with the third eye could just be tributed to bring out a fusion was I wrong? I know you can use them as substitutes, for fusion.

Like one goddess and one big koala fusing to make master of oz. Or one king of the swamp, and one dark magician making maybe dark flare knight, or dark paladin. But, my problem was I thought that goddess with the third eye's effect was she could either directly be tributed to bring out a fusion, and beast king of the swamps too. I guess I"m answering my own question>lol Cause what's the point to use her as a substitute if you can just bring the fusion out. Unless you want a propper fusion so you could use de-fusion. Please help me out, cause I think I'm confusing myself.
 
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Javario said:
so I can't normal summon her and tribute her to bring out paladin? They have to be used as sub's in fusion? So what's the difference between the three? Is there any difference? Is there an effect monster that I can use to get paladin or any fusion out without fusing? Besides using magical scientist. I thought beast king of the swamps and goddess with the third eye could just be tributed to bring out a fusion was I wrong? I know you can use them as substitutes, for fusion.
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You can normal summon her and then later use her as a fusion substitute. But the key with all the fusion substitutes is that they can only take the place of *1* of the monsters needed. So you can use any of the following:

Goddess + Dark Magician
Goddess + Buster Blader
Beastking + Buster Blader
King of the Swamp + Dark Magician

Any of those can be used with Polymerization or Fusion Gate to bring out Dark Paladin. What you couldn't do is this:

Goddess + Beastking

You can have no more than 1 fusion substitute as part of the fusion process.

And yes you can normal summon her first (though you don't have to). Any combination of the monsters in your hand or field will be allowable.

Javario said:
Like one goddess and one big koala fusing to make master of oz. Or one king of the swamp, and one dark magician making maybe dark flare knight, or dark paladin. But, my problem was I thought that goddess with the third eye's effect was she could either directly be tributed to bring out a fusion, and beast king of the swamps too. I guess I"m answering my own question>lol Cause what's the point to use her as a substitute if you can just bring the fusion out. Unless you want a propper fusion so you could use de-fusion. Please help me out, cause I think I'm confusing myself.
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Now you are confusing youself :wink:

But you just gave a perfect example:

Goddess + Dark Magician. This combination will let you bring out either "Dark Paladin" or "Dark Flare Knight" because both of those use "Dark Magician" and something else. The Goddess here can take the place of either the Buster Blader or the Flame Swordsman.

And remember, "Dark Paladin" can only be brought to the field by Polymerization or Fusion Gate.

- Andrew
 
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Another thing to note (it was mentioned, but seems to have been missed): You do not need to have any of your Fusion materials on the field. You can fuse them all from the hand if you wish (which is especially cruel when you Tribute Summon Jinzo and fuse your Goddess with the Third Eye and Dark Magician).
 
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no>lol I knew all of that I was wondering was there a monster that had an effect that I bring to the field like exiled force tribute it to special summon any fusion monster from the fusion deck. Before I actually read the text on goddess with a third eye, I thought that's what you could do with her. But, when I read it I realized it was like king of the swamp, or beast king of the swamp.

I realize that you can fuse through fusion gate, or polymerization from the hand. But, I wondered if there was a monster that I could use directly to bring a fusion out by itself, besides magical scientist. I don't have any idea where I got that from. That I could basically send her to the grave to bring paladin out, or a fusion out. Maybe when I saw on upperdeck it said you can use goddess with a third eye to bring Paladin out, I was like wow all I have to do is tribute her to special summon him, but then I thought through her effect it was considered a tribute summon. I also wondered that since her effect was so good why no one used her. I then saw that she was tournement pack (#1). I was half right, on some things , but I was way off! It's kinda weird that I even thought that, but I was just seing what all she could do. I was thinking too hard..... I didn't realize upperdeck meant as a substitute like it says on the card for a fusion summoning. I know paladin can only be special summoned through fusion but with me being off at the time I thought goddess's effect was tribute.

Now that I'm , completely aware of the portion I may have missed which is (substitute) everything is fine.

There's no more confusion, magical scientist is the only thing that can directly bring fusions out witth that cost of 1,000, lp's. Thanx for that clarity.

-Javario
 
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Well, no. "Magicial Scientist" isn't the only monster that can special summon a fusion to the field

Summoner of Illusions [LON-063]
Effect Monster (Spellcaster / LIGHT / 3 Stars / ATK 800 / DEF 900)

FLIP: Offer 1 monster on your side of the field as a Tribute (excluding this monster). Special Summon 1 Fusion Monster Card from your Fusion Deck. The Fusion Monster is destroyed at the end of the turn this card is activated.

The same things that will work to keep a fusion on the field past the End Phase with "Magicial Scientist" ("Book of Moon" the Fusion or "Dimensionhole" it or "Interdimensional Matter Transporter" it) will work here as well. Also, there is no restriction with "Summoner of Illusions" so you can special summon a 7+ Star Fusion. The same rules about fusions summoned this way apply as well (They are not considered properly summoned so they can't be reborn from the graveyard, "Dark Paladin" and the XYZ-based fusions are not allowable targets since those have specific restrictions on how they can be brought to the field).

And as a teaser, though it is not out in the US, there will eventually be a 3rd way to special summon a fusion to the field: A monster called "Cyber Stein". Pay 5000 life points. Special Summon 1 fusion monster to the field (again "Dark Paladin" and the XYZ-based fusions are not valid tagets by this). So for a very hefty price in life points, you can ring any 1 fusion to the field and it stays there until it is destroyed or sent back to hand.

- Andrew
 
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Thankyou, cause I didn't have much of a clue where I could get a fusionf rom without paying for it. I would use fusion gate but there's the remove from play issue. Poly; has that issue where the combined strength of both monsters is reduced to a fusion's atk. Which isn't always so strong, compared to the combined strenght. I don't have jinzo anymore I traded to get paladin since I don't use jinzo that much. My jinzo was bpt, so I actually benifited. But, anyway I use to love playing with paladin but if I used him he deserved a whole deck specifically for him. I just love his power of negating, but you'll need a sinister serpent. But, now that I have found better ways to get more and more fusions out, I may use sorceror of dark magic but I hate paying lp's unless i'm over 8,000. But, thanx.... Hopefully I can reduce things from my deck and add polymerization or something since buster blader is in my deck. Anyway, thanx again man. Plus that insight on that new card, who know's when it will come out, but at least I know of it. Kinda like dark curtain for fusion monsters>lol but thanx




Is summoner of illusions a rare, or super, or ultra, what is it?
 
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Javario said:
Is summoner of illusions a rare, or super, or ultra, what is it?
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I will reply to you:
LON-063 Summoner of Illusions
Type Spellcaster LIGHT Level 3
Atk 800 Def 900
FLIP: Offer 1 monster on your side of the field as a Tribute (excluding this monster). Special Summon 1 Fusion Monster Card from your Fusion Deck. The Fusion Monster is destroyed at the end of the turn this card is activated.

It is a common card. :)
Have a nice day!!! ^_^_^_^
 
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